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Ewon · Mar 06, 2012, 12:38 PM // 12:38

I'm a bit of a completionist when it comes to the Hall of Monuments. Currently I'm sitting at 51/52(53) titles/achievements with codex being one of my last two. AS this arena seems to be dead, I was hoping to get some advise, thoughts, and opinions on how or when I could get this title.

Please Note: I understand that the title is not something you need to get. If all you are seeking is a pvp title, there are other options. The title itself is meaningless at this point. The point of this thread is not to discuss whether or not a player needs to get this title. It is to discuss how one might get it if they decide to go for a complete HoM. This means going for Codex 3 only, not any higher ranks.

Why Go for the title?
As stated above, I would like to go for 52/52(53) titles/achievements in my Hall of Monuments. Obviously this is not a requirement for GW1 or GW2, and some will argue that no one needs to get this title.

I do not believe this title should just be written off due to the fact that there are other whys to get your PvP title. The title is an option to be placed the the HoM, and therefore it should be a title that people can work towards. I do not believe the HoM should have any options that everyone just accepts as not achievable. Hero battles could be looked at in this way, but it has been removed from the game, and replaced with the codex title. Codex is still available so some might want to go for it.

My Questions and Thoughts
When, if at all, is the Arena Active?
My timezone is GMT -4, and a rarely see anyone in this arena. Even on codex weekend/ZQ day there are not that many players, and even less that stay to get any amount of points. Could anyone provide times in GMT when this arena sees some light?

Syncing?
I know this topic is going to cause some arguments, but it currently seems to be the only way to get the codex title.

I do not see syncing as a possible method for myself to acquire this title as I only have 3 accounts that I could enter with. I would like to discuss the option of syncing and everyone's thoughts around it. Obviously this was not the intended method to get this title, and is a technically match manipulation, which is against the EULA. I have not seen players get banned for syncing codex/RA, but based on the EULA it is reason for a ban.

So my question is now, should this be? Should a title, that is an option to be placed in the HoM, get people banned for using the only real method to acquiring the title? Also, if legit players run into synced accounts, should they fear getting banned as well? Is this an arena everyone should now stay clear of?

For the record, i'm not trying to justify syncing, and even if people do, Anet gets the last word on this. It is an exploit and against the EULA. I would simply like everyone's thoughts the state of codex and syncing.

Path to getting this tile?
What would you suggest is the best, and legit, way to get this title. If we take syncing out the the question, how would you then get it? playing 1-2hrs a day during a specific time netting like 1-2 points? Please discuss/suggest.

Does Codex have any Hope?
In the end, is there any point to this arena anymore, if there ever even was? Should be just see this title in the same way as hero battle? It is just a dead arena and there is nothing we can do about it. Those willing to take the risk and sync will still be able to get the title, but no one else will (unless they get like 1pt a day).

In Short
How would you acquire Codex 3?
Is it possible for people who are not top PvPers to get this title?
When is Codex arena active? (Time in GMT, or only during weekend events/ZQ)
Should Syncers be banned?
Does Anet even care at this point?
General thoughts?
Would anyone like to help me get Codex 3? :P

If possible, please discuss the title/methods and thoughts rather than just No/Yes, Possible/Not Possible etc.

Thanks for reading my jumbled mess of thoughts. I might clean it up a little later. For now I would like to see what people think.

Jet · Mar 06, 2012, 03:34 PM // 15:34

The idea of Codex Arena is intentionally used to balance out the game. By limiting the skills that players can use, you would get some sense of the skills that people would be using every time you enter. So you technically wouldn't be caught off guard since you know what skills can be used. Also since the skills pool changes everyday, it prevents people from playing meta bars.

1. How would you acquire Codex title? The best option is to play on the weekend Codex Event or on one of those Zaishen challenges since titles are so important to GW players. The second option is to get a group of friends who wants to play.

2. Is it possible for people who are not top PvPers to get this title? Yes it is possible but its going to take a lot of effort and grinding. There is some rank discrimination in Codex Arena as well. Play a lot during the double points or those zaishen challenges.

3. When is Codex arena active? (Time in GMT, or only during weekend events/ZQ). I answered it in question #1.

4. Should Syncers be banned? Syncing in general is a disgrace to yourself, the community and to guild wars. With TA being removed, people have resorted to syncing to play with friends or farm titles. Sure syncers should be banned, but its going to exist no matter what. Whenever there's an opportunity in anything, people are going to exploit it. It's how the world works in general.

5. Does Anet even care at this point? I think Anet does care. It's their product why wouldn't they care? However they tried almost everything through balancing skills, new pvp formats, etc... It's just not working. The players have exploited and destroyed the game. Also most of the funding and attention is being given to GW2.

6. General thoughts? The problem with Codex Arena is that it takes way too long to make sure each party members skill bars compliments each other. Since the skills changes every day, you can imagine how frustrating it can be just to play Codex Arena. However, if your really set on going after the title, get your friends to play with you. You'll actually learn a lot by playing with each other. You'll get a feel of their playstyles and strategies and how skills work with other skills.

7. Would anyone like to help me get Codex 3? Sure I wouldn't mind.

Missing HB · Mar 06, 2012, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ewon

In Short
How would you acquire Codex 3?
Is it possible for people who are not top PvPers to get this title?
When is Codex arena active? (Time in GMT, or only during weekend events/ZQ)
Should Syncers be banned?
Does Anet even care at this point?
General thoughts?
Would anyone like to help me get Codex 3? :P

The answer to the first 3 questions is quite similar and relies on when syncers are playing.. I personnaly had r3 but i got to say that probably 75% of my wins were against auto resign bots or vs poor teams expecting to farm their second accounts...
There' still the compromise then, about what do you want ( i.e the title only or having it in a fair way).. The problem is that it depends who you face there( 3 possibilities) :
- either there are several teams , but you can be sure there are 1-2 good guild teams beating all, and the chances so you get many consecutive wins( thus title points) is very low. Other point is that it will be quite boring facing the same builds over and over..
- either there are auto-resigns bots : they will keep entering in and resigning for some time. Easiest way to get title points
- either typical game abuser that will stop once you beat them, until you have enough so they're going to sync again...

Getting r3 codex is possible, but it's quite random.. I would say just get in the outpost sometimes and see if there are some players, and test out to see if there are opponents...

About other questions, the problem is quite clear : if something was done against syncers, the format would be unplayable and HA/GvG would be even less active .. Basically, doing something against ban has to mean doing something in PvP...They should just have kept TA and made a costume brawl format in my opinion:
- easiest solution( the code is already there)
- you can win on killing but also on cap pts
- everyone got a pre-made bar, and those are generally correctly balanced
- you don't need an hour to form the party and to expect an opponent
- an other random format for those who get enough of random arenas flaws

To put it in a nutshell, i wouldn't tell you to sync the format( noone was banned until today, but things can happen some day...), but abusing the fact that several players are syncing the format is probably the safest way to get the title...

depeche · Mar 07, 2012, 07:36 AM // 07:36

I will try to answer to the best of my knowledge.
Haven't played codex lately but did play it (on weekend/zquest) a few months ago.

1. How would you acquire Codex 3?
* Believe it or not, there are a few "codex"-guilds ;option would be to join
them.
* Get some friends/guildies to want to achieve the same goal and farm it.

2. Is it possible for people who are not top PvPers to get this title?
* Sure
Although there is a bit of elitism/rank discrimination there are a lot of
crappy teams there too, make advantage of that.

3. When is Codex arena active? (Time in GMT, or only during weekend events/ZQ)
* Sadly, for a promising but not well worked out concept, it's only active
during z-quest or double weekends.
Check the american district, there should be players there.

4. Should Syncers be banned?
* Short answer : Yes.

5. Does Anet even care at this point?
* Sadly i think they have given up for the codex arena.
Although the concept sounded promising, the implementation is flawed.
Minutes after a new deck is active, a new "meta" emerges.
A-net can't do anything about this, people will see that the "meta" works
and everyone will play the "meta" till a new deck arises.

6. General thoughts?
* Let Codex be like it is.
* Bring Team Arena back for the last duration of Guild Wars 1
* Bring Hero Battles back for the last duration of Guild Wars 1

7. Would anyone like to help me get Codex 3? :P
* Sorry, not interested in getting this title.
When i am bored and it's zquest/double weekend i might play a few battles
there but that's all.

Good Luck with getting it, should not be too hard.

Coast · Mar 07, 2012, 09:44 AM // 09:44

shield of force needs to be banned from the skillpool.
codex is active every day about 1-2hours after skillchanges, so if u want to play then its the besttime to do so.

English Warrior · Mar 07, 2012, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Im also trying to get this title, trying to find a group of people who are always up for it is hard.

drowze · Mar 07, 2012, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Also want to get this title, and also finding it hard to find groups.
Only once did I get a team that stayed together for a bit and made it possible to get a couple points... and most battles were against bots that auto resign or had low health armor with a vamp weapon.
Banning the bots sadly would make it even deader than it is now. Although I hate bots.

Haodu · Mar 12, 2012, 07:15 PM // 19:15

I'll group with people trying to get this title, I've only got a couple of points in it so far

PM me ingame when you want to party up

Telemon Ajax

English Warrior · Mar 12, 2012, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Any1 know of any guilds that run Codex often?

Pre Warrior Dude · Mar 12, 2012, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Afaik the "codex guilds" are full of PvE syncers that won't get you anywhere when actual teams are playing.

chowmein69 · Mar 13, 2012, 12:59 AM // 00:59

i will do codex too to raise my title
ign Chaos Pew Pew

Missing HB · Mar 16, 2012, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pre Warrior Dude

Afaik the "codex guilds" are full of PvE syncers that won't get you anywhere when actual teams are playing.

That's the codex issue. Basically, due to the low number of opponents and the fact that it's mostly guild teams that are syncing, it's basically " either get your friends to play or don't play " . Apart of maybe 1 good team running sometimes, most are just good to farm poor random setups( players that just wanna go in ) but are losing when you got a strong team...
Although i usually like taking people from the district to give them a chance or just to play, it's tiring to lose over and over to the same players, because your backline isn't sufficienly good..

Last time i played( 3 days ago), we had 17 consec facing the same team over and over( note : human teams really playing, changing builds , etc..). I was quite amazed that they kept trying as my mates usually rage quit when we lose 3-4 times in a row...
After some time we didn't have any more opponent so we left, and i noticed they were waiting in japanese district with an other team having same guild tags....

My point after this is : PvE'rs that cannot win anything else than poor team are actually the ones that will make you get the codex r3 the quickest.

Ewon · Apr 24, 2012, 08:06 PM // 20:06

I know it has been a while, but I finally got around to trying for the codex 3. I must say, this arena is now complete trash. The only active time was during ZQ days, and you would often have a high-end pvp guild just roll everyone. Anytime this happened, I just waited them out and went back in after. I also got a lot of kicks from teams due to getting a friend at the last minute, even if I have done several consec with them already. A lot of the player base there happen to be annoying to deal with, though there were some great people too.

I'm happy to finally get my title, but I would most likely stay out of this arena now. Thanks to everyone who offered addice, and those who joined me ingame.

EDIT: This might help

Alex2 · May 21, 2012, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pre Warrior Dude

Afaik the "codex guilds" are full of PvE syncers that won't get you anywhere when actual teams are playing.

I Dont know what makes you say this, its sounds completely out of range to me, to be honest with you, im in a Codex guild, all i know is we do Codex ALOT every day + we do other kind of stuff, but with some guild/pug teams going you can get a high streak, if you wait for it.

I am offering, you guys, if yuo want, to come on some codex runs with me, i do not sync, i do bot bot. i just play it for fun, and taking the time, i got r4 allrdy in 5 days. all it takes, is some mind, to play fun builds. instead of all that Op stuff going on in RA, where 90% does not even know how to pvp.

Codex, is the last arena left, with good pvp'ers. thats why you can call it "dead"
but i personally love codex because:
1. it helps your skills ALOT
2. now im better at making builds
3. i have made alot of friends (allways the same who plays)
4. when its zq i can make several of hundreds of K.

the only reason i see people syncin codex, is because no1 is playing.
i love codex, and what i most love is 2 guild teams against eachother, cause in my guild, no1 wants to loose

so we buildwar eachother and get better and better, i love codex. keep it as it is.

[B][I]READ THIS IF YOU NEED CODEX TITLE:
I can take you on runs, no problem, i dont mind you being "noob" i love having fun

superraptors · May 21, 2012, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex2

I Dont know what makes you say this, its sounds completely out of range to me, to be honest with you, im in a Codex guild, all i know is we do Codex ALOT every day + we do other kind of stuff, but with some guild/pug teams going you can get a high streak, if you wait for it.

I am offering, you guys, if yuo want, to come on some codex runs with me, i do not sync, i do bot bot. i just play it for fun, and taking the time, i got r4 allrdy in 5 days. all it takes, is some mind, to play fun builds. instead of all that Op stuff going on in RA, where 90% does not even know how to pvp.

Codex, is the last arena left, with good pvp'ers. thats why you can call it "dead"
but i personally love codex because:
1. it helps your skills ALOT
2. now im better at making builds
3. i have made alot of friends (allways the same who plays)
4. when its zq i can make several of hundreds of K.

the only reason i see people syncin codex, is because no1 is playing.
i love codex, and what i most love is 2 guild teams against eachother, cause in my guild, no1 wants to loose

so we buildwar eachother and get better and better, i love codex. keep it as it is.

READ THIS IF YOU NEED CODEX TITLE:
I can take you on runs, no problem, i dont mind you being "noob" i love having fun
you can pm me in game: I The Yellow Necro

r4 in 5 days and you didn't sync? your an idiot.

you definitely faced resign bots 95% of the time.

so basically you are saying this arena is more active than RA+GVG+HA put together, lol good joke.

just do everyone a favor and stop spewing bullshit and go be a good kid and stick to facing bots.

edit: alex2 kid buying 4 -50hp offhands, wonder what he is using it for
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/5...t10509731.html

Alex2 · May 27, 2012, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by superraptors

r4 in 5 days and you didn't sync? your an idiot.

you definitely faced resign bots 95% of the time.

so basically you are saying this arena is more active than RA+GVG+HA put together, lol good joke.

just do everyone a favor and stop spewing bullshit and go be a good kid and stick to facing bots.

edit: alex2 kid buying 4 -50hp offhands, wonder what he is using it for
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/5...t10509731.html

I do agree, i faced alot of resign bots, but actually i am buying those offhands to a friend

and i dont know what he will use em for.