Curse

ChillOutDude · Jan 14, 2009, 06:22 PM // 18:22

build to annoy monk :

[build prof=mesmer/assassin Fast Casting=10 Domination=14 Inspiration=8 Shadow Arts=6][Wastrel's Collapse][Blackout][Empathy][Shame][Signet of Humility][Return][Dark Escape][Resurrection Signet][/build]

enjoy

Reverend Dr · Jan 14, 2009, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Shutdown with no damage, no interrupts, no versitility. Pretty pro.

Morgoth the dark · Jan 14, 2009, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by Ninjah Panda

@Morgoth the dark

What's the point of having Gash with no bleed inducing skill? o.o

skill descriptions in BBcode arent updated yet so...

Strike As One :
Your animal companion instantly moves to target foe and causes Bleeding for 5...13 seconds with its next attack. The next time you hit with an attack, target foe is Crippled for 5...13 seconds.

so yea

Magikarp · Jan 14, 2009, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Shutdown with no damage, no interrupts, no versitility. Pretty pro.

i disagree with the versatility point. also, most shutdown sans backfire and VoR contain damage... and really.. backfire and VoR aren't really even much of "shutdown" these days seeing as most want the damage. The build is bad, yes, but not terrible... especially for RA where being annoying is the staple of most builds.

Ninjah Panda · Jan 14, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

My little necro build. :S People say it sucks, but I think it's good pressure. X_X

[Vampiric Spirit][Blood Drinker][Plague Sending][Dark Pact][Barbed Signet][Blood Renewal][Strip Enchant][Resurrection Signet]

ChillOutDude · Jan 14, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Shutdown with no damage, no interrupts, no versitility. Pretty pro.

that what i focus ..shut down the monk for 6 sec +shame
with a good enough warrior or sins thegames finish fast ..
and it's ra leave the "pro" for better places

Reverend Dr · Jan 14, 2009, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Your whole strategy revolves around playing monkstomp.

Your whole bar revolves around shutting down one bar and nothing more; we've been over why echo blackout is bad.

p pro was a sarcastic jest that the build is even bad compared to RA's standards.

HotPocket · Jan 15, 2009, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by ChillOutDude

that what i focus ..shut down the monk for 6 sec +shame
with a good enough warrior or sins thegames finish fast ..
and it's ra leave the "pro" for better places

Yeah, but you are not always guaranteed to find a monk in RA... or guaranteed to have a good war/ sin

Probably more of a TA build, but you will get spiked uber easily in there.

Ninjah Panda · Jan 15, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

B> commentary on my build. `-`

Jeydra · Jan 15, 2009, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Ninjah Panda

My little necro build. :S People say it sucks, but I think it's good pressure. X_X

[Vampiric Spirit][Blood Drinker][Plague Sending][Dark Pact][Barbed Signet][Blood Renewal][Strip Enchant][Resurrection Signet]

Since you asked ... Blood Magic is probably at its most viable in RA, but I see considerable difficulties in your build.

1. Probably Blood Drinker's only use is to pump the energy gain from Angorodon's Gaze. Since you don't have Angorodon's Gaze, it's probably of no use either.
2. If you're packing Plague Sending, you might as well bring Foul Feast, too - especially since you already have 12 Soul Reaping.
3. Barbed Signet is probably not necessary given other Blood skills.
4. Blood Renewal is not necessary with Vampiric Spirit's life regen.
5. You have no defense except straight healing. If a Warrior or Sin decides to train you, you are going to die ... if they decide to train your allies, there's nothing you can do to help out.

There're many things you can do. I'd say drop Barbed Signet, Blood Renewal, giving you at least two slots to work with. If you keep Plague Sending then Foul Feast is a shoo-in for one of the two slots. If you keep Blood Drinker then Angorodon's Gaze is another obvious choice, but I'd use those two skills only if you need the energy (with high Soul Reaping + Foul Feast, maybe not). Other skills to consider: dropping a little from Soul Reaping and spec into Curses, taking along Price of Failure or perhaps Insidious Parasite if you can get it at enough spec as defense against physicals. Another method is to spec into Tactics instead, equip a Tactics shield and bring defensive stances (Shield Bash / Disciplined Stance etc). If you do this Foul Feast is obviously a lot weaker. If you're playing for pressure Life Siphon is an alternative: -3 degen on every opponent, although it does overlap with the regen you get from Vampiric Spirit. And finally you can use something from a non-Necro line, eg. Gale for its usefulness at low spec.

It's been a very long time since I last played a Blood Necro in RA - was before the Vampiric Spirit change, even, so what I say might not be accurate. The problems I can see, but the options will definitely need testing.

I Jonas I · Jan 16, 2009, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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Originally Posted by Ninjah Panda

My little necro build. :S People say it sucks

That's because it does

Morgoth the dark · Jan 16, 2009, 12:24 PM // 12:24

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Originally Posted by Jonas The Keen

That's because it does

now that's some constructive criticism!!!!

kostolomac · Jan 16, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Quick question , how bad is this build since I have no experience with warrior pvp builds. [build;OQYTgmILZ6npSMqgqgp4c4nQAAA]

deluxe · Jan 16, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by kostolomac

Quick question , how bad is this build since I have no experience with warrior pvp builds. [build;OQYTgmILZ6npSMqgqgp4c4nQAAA]

That's the basic PR Shockaxe, a good allrounder.

riktw · Jan 17, 2009, 03:21 PM // 15:21

i am thinking, to annoy monks, what about glyph of swiftness, arcane languor and Wastrel's Worry?
need some nice build for my mesmer, and i still like arcane languor.

belladonna shylock · Jan 17, 2009, 06:20 PM // 18:20

If you're going to run arcane languor make sure you take Aneurysm. The exhuasted energy bar acts like 0 Energy, even when Aneurysm shows they gained the energy back. IE, they take dmg as if they gain the energy but they gain no energy due to exhaustion.

HotPocket · Jan 18, 2009, 03:40 AM // 03:40

Rt/ A

Channeling Magic - 8+1
Spawning Power - 10+1+1
Dagger Mastery - 12

[Spirit's Strength][Sight Beyond Sight][Weapon of Aggression][Golden Phoenix Strike][Horns of the Ox][Falling Spider][Repeating Strike][Resurrection Signet]

Use Spirit's Strength + WoA for a super attack buff, with Sight Beyond Sight as your cover enchant. Golden Phoenix Strike -> Horns of the Ox -> Falling Spider Strike (or Lotus) -> Repeating Strike (use Repeating as spam until you finish your target off, this is great because you only have a recharge on Repeating if you miss with Sight Beyond Sight will prevent the greatest source of your missing, blindness)

Any suggestions?

kvndoom · Jan 18, 2009, 06:02 AM // 06:02

Easiest KD chaining you'll ever get in your life:

Zealous hammer strongly recommended. Since Enraged is an energy skill, it doesn't drain your pool and you really get 5 adrenaline if it hits. So even if its intrinsic KD condition isn't met, Heavy Blow is charged and its conditional is automatic with [Withering Aura]. 3 second recharge means getting it stripped is moot. For this build I really didn't see an advantage in taking [enraging charge] over Sprint because the elite fuels your adrenaline anyway.

Krill · Jan 18, 2009, 11:20 AM // 11:20

[BUILD=OwEkUdQ4D3g0lWDoAxdVe1ERNxcB]

Let's bring back sexy this year.

Fuzzy Taco · Jan 18, 2009, 03:57 PM // 15:57

I ran urania's ZB build for 10 wins the other day. I still love ZB so much.

[RA ZB;OwET8YIW1ZmcpnICk86JpmgXAA]

Don't run 10 Tactics, of course, if you have a better shield. I do, but I was very, very lazy.