Curse

urania · Mar 24, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

make up your mind whether u wanna keep the condis on yourself (and make use of ur elite) or send them back to the enemy team (and make use of plague sending, but u'd need to ditch ur elite for sth better then) - in case of daze u are screwed either way tho.

bungusmaximus · Mar 24, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

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Originally Posted by urania

make up your mind whether u wanna keep the condis on yourself (and make use of ur elite) or send them back to the enemy team (and make use of plague sending, but u'd need to ditch ur elite for sth better then) - in case of daze u are screwed either way tho.

I like having the choice, its RA after all, I don't know what I will face, plague sending d-shotted can get hairy without MR. If I would be assured of having a monk all the time I would definitely agree with you though. I could also drop plague sending for more offense, but this way it's just lulz.

RhanoctJocosa · Mar 25, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28

[skill]Migraine[/skill][skill]Frustration[/skill][skill]Power Return[/skill][skill]Web of Disruption[/skill][skill]Signet of Humility[/skill][skill]Distortion[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill][skill]Rend Enchantments[/skill]

Sometimes I run Leech sig instead of WoD for the energy but I like WoD as an emergency cover hex for migraine for when we're about to score kills etc. Reason I bring Rend over drain or iench is because of D/P and stuff, also helps against better monks who cover veil with guardian or smth. I prefer frus over phantasm or w/e else because of the damage (usually run this with BHA and necro in TA for max gayness, so damage is needed). Sig of hum for gay shit, distortion for casting SoH, mig, and res sig, also for when you get bullsed, sin spikes blah blah.

Byron · Mar 25, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

[skill]poison arrow[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]barbed arrows[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

I sometimes take veil for troll, if I'm feeling generous. I've also been meaning to try toxicity in the 7 slot.

[skill]toxicity[/skill]

moush · Mar 27, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Sometimes I run Leech sig instead of WoD for the energy but I like WoD as an emergency cover hex for migraine for when we're about to score kills etc. Reason I bring Rend over drain or iench is because of D/P and stuff, also helps against better monks who cover veil with guardian or smth. I prefer frus over phantasm or w/e else because of the damage (usually run this with BHA and necro in TA for max gayness, so damage is needed). Sig of hum for gay shit, distortion for casting SoH, mig, and res sig, also for when you get bullsed, sin spikes blah blah.

I like to run Rip Enchantment on my mes a lot now, casts as fast as inspired but recharges in half the time. It may not be good for my energy, but mesmers don't have much problem with energy anyways.

JR · Mar 27, 2008, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by Byron

[skill]poison arrow[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]barbed arrows[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

I sometimes take veil for troll, if I'm feeling generous. I've also been meaning to try toxicity in the 7 slot.

[skill]toxicity[/skill]

[skill]Magebane Shot[/skill][skill]Hunter's Shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Byron · Mar 27, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Magebane isn't nearly brave enough for me tbh.

Plus hunter's shot blows - nobody moves around in RA. I do like apply over barbed, though.

Shadow Slave · Mar 27, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

[skill]screaming shot[/skill]

Not brave enough in what sense?

[skill]Broad head arrow[/skill] [skill]Burning arrow[/skill] ??

Magebane ftw ~

Jetdoc · Mar 27, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by Byron

Magebane isn't nearly brave enough for me tbh.

Plus hunter's shot blows - nobody moves around in RA. I do like apply over barbed, though.

Replace Hunter's Shot with Screaming Shot and I think you'll be thrilled.

No reason to take Poison Arrow in RA since its true value is its spammability (and application to multiple opponents). You can achieve that very easily in RA without need to use the attack skill.

Zuranthium · Mar 27, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by Byron

Plus hunter's shot blows - nobody moves around in RA.

Yes they do.

And it's a fast attack regardless.

~Z

Master Ketsu · Mar 28, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

Hunters shot is pretty much superior to alot of the other 1 sec bow attacks now that they have been nerfed, but hunters was not. And people do move around in RA...quite alot...heck, are you sure you are playing the same RA ? I catch people with hunters when I run it all the time.

erk · Mar 28, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

Hunters shot is pretty much superior to alot of the other 1 sec bow attacks now that they have been nerfed, but hunters was not. And people do move around in RA...quite alot...heck, are you sure you are playing the same RA ? I catch people with hunters when I run it all the time.

Now that you point it out, the crazy damage reduction to Sundering Attack/Penetrating Attack does seem like total overkill, the recharge increase should have been enough to slow down the Turret Ranger build that was dominating. Hunters, Keen both look like a better deal now.

Master Ketsu · Mar 28, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Yep, its pretty sad.

Hunters: 5 energy, 1 sec, 5 recharge - +13 damage, 21 seconds of bleeding.

Keen: 5 energy, 6 recharge - +17 damage ( unconditional ) +29 damage ( Crit ).

Power Shot: 10 energy, 1 sec, 6 recharge - +17 damage.

( based off of rank 12 Marks )

The fail speaks for itself.

Master Ketsu · Mar 28, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Speaking of stupid ranger builds, I ran this for the lulz yesterday. It didnt do half bad either.

[skill]glass arrows[/skill][skill]augury of death[/skill][skill]Zojun's shot[/skill][skill]Hunter's shot[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]antidote signet[/skill][skill]lightning reflexes[/skill] and teh res sig.

moko · Mar 28, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

as i'm banned again and only got a second acc with proph only, i actually thought this was pretty nice for RA; strangely, it did better than the usual ranger bars with marks elite i run. (no condition removal only hurt vs blindbots because i'm horrible at dshotting bsurge)

[skill]Escape[/skill][skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Hunter's Shot[/skill][skill]Pin Down[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill] Rez

due to the huge survival, i often ended up soloing 2-3 players after my team had died. :s

just went with the usual 14/10/10 atts, i guess better rangers can do without the 14 EXP breakpoint though.

also fun how much people flamed me for running escape.

Master Ketsu · Mar 28, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

I Just got back from being a douch.

[skill]Read the wind[/skill][skill]magebane shot[/skill]

[skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Boogz · Mar 28, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar

A little info..... if you're good and have high survivability, you don't need to carry a res skill. IMO, quit whining because you suck, died, and no one will res you because you're not worth it. My friend made a very good point about dying in RA.

"If you die, then that shows everyone you suck, you will just die again, and there's no point in bringing something back by wasting a slot on my skill bar that will just suck and die over and over again."

this is the most stupid thing that i've ever seen on this forum.

if you die in RA doesn't mean that you suck, if you don't res, this means that you suck. complaining that a mesmer suck at RA coz the whole team spiked him and "OMFG U NUB UZE TEH ETHER FEAST", and QQing on local chat about "OMFG MY TEAM IZ TEH SUXXOR" is what tells that someone is a failure or not

forgot to post build :
[card]Arcane Languor[/card][card]Web of Disruption[/card][card]Ether Phantom[/card][card]Drain Delusions[/card][card]Spirit Shackles[/card][card]Ether Feast[/card][card]Drain Enchantment[/card][card]Ressurection Signet[/card]

12+1 fast casting
12+1+1 inspiration magic

basically a caster-shutdown with some melee hate(spirit shackles), sometimes i replace ether phantom and drain delusions with [card]Signet of Humility[/card] and [card]Power Drain[/card].

audioaxes · Mar 28, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

screaming shot is too expensive and too slow of recharge to do good mass condition spreading

BobbyEwing · Mar 28, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

One build that isn't really new, but that has seen a revival in TA and works wonders with some modifications in RA is ye olde Signet of Midnight spammer:

Me/N
Sig of Midnight
Plague Sending
Sig of Humility
Mantra of Inscriptions
Res Sig

Is the basis. From there you may go a few different routes. I prefer to go Dom, and bring:

Diversion
Arcane Larceny
Ether Feast

Diversion is a no-brainer, the Larceny lets you disable Mending Touch on rangers. If there is no Ranger or other guys you know will have just one spell you can just use it to disable some random stuff on a monk. Ether Feast makes it possible to go on for quite a bit even without a monk, since you will be minimizing melee damage, but an enchant removal would be good to. Blackout is a good option as well. You might choose to go illusion to, or get some more stuff from curses. E-management is no problem, since the only stuff you'll be spamming are signets and plague sending, which is 1E. Make sure you get alot of fast cast to avoid interruption of your SoM.

This build is really useful, especially with the heavy melee and ranger bias in RA. The rate of which you output blinds is enough to overpower any spot condition removal, while you can perma-humil any elite (WoH) and divert key stuff.

audioaxes · Mar 28, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Boogz

this is the most stupid thing that i've ever seen on this forum.

if you die in RA doesn't mean that you suck, if you don't res, this means that you suck. complaining that a mesmer suck at RA coz the whole team spiked him and "OMFG U NUB UZE TEH ETHER FEAST", and QQing on local chat about "OMFG MY TEAM IZ TEH SUXXOR" is what tells that someone is a failure or not

forgot to post build :
[card]Arcane Languor[/card][card]Web of Disruption[/card][card]Ether Phantom[/card][card]Drain Delusions[/card][card]Spirit Shackles[/card][card]Ether Feast[/card][card]Drain Enchantment[/card][card]Ressurection Signet[/card]

12+1 fast casting
12+1+1 inspiration magic

basically a caster-shutdown with some melee hate(spirit shackles), sometimes i replace ether phantom and drain delusions with [card]Signet of Humility[/card] and [card]Power Drain[/card].

spirit shackles is not nearly enough to keep physicals from killing you fast
you can get away as a caster without good physical defense if you can quickly do something valuable before you die but arcane languor is generally too slow in shutting someone down