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Old Feb 22, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33   #781
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I do like Heavy Blow, but it really locks you into running triple stance (flail, rush, enraging charge), as otherwise you lose your Frenzy cancel. I don't mind running triple stance, but I do like the added utility from Distracting Strike and the extra pressure from running Frenzy over Flail, particularly in RA where the extra knockdown isn't often as necessary.
You don't have to run triple stance. Just switch out rush for sprint if you insist on taking frenzy instead of flail.

The extra kd is always necessary on a hammer because that's pretty much the point to running a hammer.
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Old Feb 22, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32   #782
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I really dont think the the 16 axe really makes a difference at that spec, and i like the extra hp>> !! LOl
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Old Feb 22, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33   #783
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You don't have to run triple stance. Just switch out rush for sprint if you insist on taking frenzy instead of flail.

The extra kd is always necessary on a hammer because that's pretty much the point to running a hammer.
The problem with running an energy based stance is that it means you're not going to be able to Frenzy, Bull's, Crushing or D-Strike as much. It also means you can't Frenzy as often due to the recharge limitation, which is a problem in RA where you'll usually get other warrior's latched onto you.

The reason I said that Heavy Blow isn't as necessary in RA is because your 2 knockdowns + all the extra damage is going to be enough to kill something, unless they're pre-protted, in which case the extra knockdown isn't going to allow you to get the kill due to the lack of things like Shatter Enchantment when you spike. In situations where you have reliable damage on either your target or an off target I agree that the extra knockdown is amazing, but when you can get the kill on a target that isn't likely to get any support healing while knocked down with just the 2 knockdowns, Heavy Blow doesn't become as valuable, particularly when you need to make other sacrifices to fit it into the build.
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Old Feb 23, 2008, 07:41 AM // 07:41   #784
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I like to build to beat good players, not bad ones.
hi, my name is RA.
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Old Feb 23, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34   #785
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I like to build to beat good players, not bad ones.
empathy is still effective against good melee players where they atleast will not be able to attack
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Old Feb 23, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #786
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empathy is still effective against good melee players where they atleast will not be able to attack
Good players now if they can kill and then heal with empathy on.
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20   #787
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I'm sorry but i just used your build in ra and each time got owned by caster teams, u may pwn physicals but against great nuking damage or hex/condition stack u can't do a thing.
You have to actually watch what people are doing and use RoF wisely against damage casters.

Degen pressure is only a problem if coupled with frequent enchant stripping. Corrupt Enchantment and Shattering Assault are what I fear most when playing that Monk.

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why would anyone bring healing breeze on a dedicated monk bar and think this is a good idea?
Because SoD is hilarious and you need healing on the bar for RA. Breeze is the only thing that combos with GOLE and it's the one Monk bar where the skill isn't pointless.

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Old Feb 24, 2008, 11:46 AM // 11:46   #788
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[skill]Crippling shot[/skill][skill]Apply poison[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]hammer bash[/skill][skill]Crushing blow[/skill][skill]Irresistible Blow[/skill][skill]Natural Stride[/skill][skill]Resurrection signet[/skill]
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56   #789
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Try taking [skill]Heavy Blow[/skill] instead of mighty blow. I guarantee you will enjoy the extra KD =)
Hammer Bash > Heavy Blow.

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Old Feb 24, 2008, 04:17 PM // 16:17   #790
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New gay Healers covenant all over RA:
Used it yesterday and got about 20/30 gladpoints, really boring though.
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49   #791
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New gay Healers covenant all over RA:
Used it yesterday and got about 20/30 gladpoints, really boring though.
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How does that survive with no prots?
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #792
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it's based on the idea off mindlessy spamming everything you have on your bar.

cop gives huge surviveability, along with a power heal supplied by patient, with return doing the rest.

but of course it's more meant to be a ta bar, possibly paired with the TA smiter, but it's definately capable of surviving.

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Old Feb 24, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30   #793
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New gay Healers covenant all over RA:
Used it yesterday and got about 20/30 gladpoints, really boring though.
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When I saw the build, I though: ``Nah, more monk crap, but im bored, I will ttry it´´. Now I´ve won 3 glad points, and then I though ``OMFG BOONRPOT IS BAKCK!!1111

This build is very good, no doubt
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54   #794
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When I saw the build, I though: ``Nah, more monk crap, but im bored, I will ttry it´´. Now I´ve won 3 glad points, and then I though ``OMFG BOONRPOT IS BAKCK!!1111

This build is very good, no doubt
Except for the fact that that build has neither divine boon nor any prot. You might as well play a hboon bar and call it boonprot.
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #795
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I find it lacking direct healing, thoughts/tips?
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Old Feb 25, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #796
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I put in cure hex for spotless mind, its a nice heal. Just spam away, it works great.
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Old Feb 25, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15   #797
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Train to beat the best, then you'll have no trouble with the rest.
what a nice rhyme, u'd make an awesome poet =D

but...hello, my name is RA.

wanna beat the best? go ta.

u'll meet "the best" once in a blue moon in ra...unless u go to the international districts. and even then u need to get lucky =P.

ur so-called "the best" go ra (IF they do at all) to either have fun/mess around with random builds/kill boredom during ta down times. excluding ra farmers, that is.

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Old Feb 25, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24   #798
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what a nice rhyme, u'd make an awesome poet =D

but...hello, my name is RA.

wanna beat the best? go ta.

u'll meet "the best" once in a blue moon in ra...unless u go to the international districts. and even then u need to get lucky =P.

ur so-called "the best" go ra (IF they do at all) to either have fun/mess around with random builds/kill boredom during ta down times. excluding ra farmers, that is.
The point is if it can beat good players it can beat bad players too.
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Old Feb 25, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #799
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I find it lacking direct healing, thoughts/tips?
Bring [skill]Infuse Health[/skill] if you think it lacks healing.

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That bar will lose badly to spike or heavy physical though.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05   #800
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The point is if it can beat good players it can beat bad players too.
It depends on your goal. There are certain builds that are only so-so against Good players, but can demolish bad players faster then anything else. If your playing to just win and get glad points - use a build built to beat the best. But if your goal is to have fun doing random slaughterfests while earning tons of fast faction - Use one of those builds.


One example of a build great against bad players but can easily fail against good ones:


[skill]Way of Perfection[/skill]
[skill]Critical eye[/skill]
[skill]Flurry[/skill]
[skill]Golden fox strike[/skill]
[skill]Golden fang strike[/skill]
[skill]Death blossom[/skill]
[skill]moebius strike[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection signet[/skill]


Its basically a fast recharging instagib. No shadow step, no snare, no protection against conditions. So against a good team you will have obvious problems. But if you go up against a team like most teams out there in RA, you will go up against spammers. Against those type of players, you can wait until 20 seconds have passed to walk into the battle and attack the other team as they attack yours. This build can potentially kill all 4 of them in under 20 seconds.


But I only use it when bored.

for a better build, use siphon speed and assassins remedy instead.
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