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Renowned Spartan · Aug 01, 2012, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by Winner

Those people were in halls around 5am euro time.
I wouldnt call that a "peak euro time"
Google euro timezones or something, get more informed.
HA is active.

Euro times (GMT) are +6 hours from my time zone which is eastern.

I played at 4:00pm my time yesterday. By simple logic, That's 10:00pm their time. 9-12pm would be peak hours for any time zone in HA.

I genuinely hope for your sake that you're just trying to be dificult and argue for the sake of arguing..unfortunately, I fear that you're actually serious. After all, you are the same person who said HA was getting better as time went on with all the various nerfs, balances, and skill changes. It was so successful that HA saw it's population decline by probably more than 75-80% (rough guestimate) in the last two years or so!

HA is not active. 4 competitive teams and a halls skip every time after UW is not active...whether your narrow minded view would like to think or not.

Thanks for giving me a good laugh though.
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Back to mAT and AT's - We're going to try again and AT tonight but I doubt we'll get a pairing or matchup. It's been insanely slow lately..so I do see accumulating QP's as maybe problematic for this mAT.

Missing HB · Aug 01, 2012, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by Winner

Excuse me, that is just your personal opinion. Repetitive? Non Fun? I absolutely disagree, I'm having tons of fun in GW. HA, GvG, Codex, it's all good. Codex is inactive quite often that is true. But GvG and HA are very active these days. You should inform yourself on the current situation before posting here. Again, there are only few cheaters in high-end PvP these days. Mostly monks with that thing to see what enemies are using, and others with rupt bots. But again, there aren't that many of them so the game is still more than enjoyable. Yesterday for example, I played HA since 5 pm euro time until 5 am and we barely got any restarts. The game is not inactive, and I find it to be really fun. Unfair matches? Welcome to competitive PvP. You are supposed to learn to compete with everyone, not instantly give up if enemy is "stronger" than you. A real, good player who loves the game will adjust to any situation and make the most out of it.

GvG and HA aren't active on non quest days, i think we've played enough together to know it.
You've had full run for a few hours, sure it was the quest time, but do you think it is the same on other days, and more importantly, will it remain the same after gw2 will be released ?

Last 2 sentences, since i feel you dedicated those 2 personnaly for me : why are players still waiting a few hours asking ( for example) for r11+ prot or rit while there are tons of less ranked players asking ? I thought real good players could adjust to all situations ..

Renowned Spartan · Aug 01, 2012, 05:36 PM // 17:36

I find rank discrimintion nowadays, more so than back when HA was prevalent and active, to be quite comical. How can someone sit there that long looking for a certain piece to be filled at that rank or above (granted most r11+ groups will accept r9+)?

Beggers can't be choosers.

Before the flame: I'm high ranked. Don't say it's QQ'ing..I just find it comical.

Winner · Aug 02, 2012, 07:30 AM // 07:30

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

Euro times (GMT) are +6 hours from my time zone which is eastern.

I played at 4:00pm my time yesterday. By simple logic, That's 10:00pm their time. 9-12pm would be peak hours for any time zone in HA.

I genuinely hope for your sake that you're just trying to be dificult and argue for the sake of arguing..unfortunately, I fear that you're actually serious. After all, you are the same person who said HA was getting better as time went on with all the various nerfs, balances, and skill changes. It was so successful that HA saw it's population decline by probably more than 75-80% (rough guestimate) in the last two years or so!

HA is not active. 4 competitive teams and a halls skip every time after UW is not active...whether your narrow minded view would like to think or not.

Thanks for giving me a good laugh though.
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Back to mAT and AT's - We're going to try again and AT tonight but I doubt we'll get a pairing or matchup. It's been insanely slow lately..so I do see accumulating QP's as maybe problematic for this mAT.

I saw you in district at euro time, you weren't even trying to play. District one was full and district 2 was half full. I don't understand why you insist on arguing instead of actually playing the game. We had quite a few consec, not many hall skips. HA is active.

Again, same thing for AT, play the euro one (daily C) and you won't have any problems getting QPs, if you're good enough that is.

Before the flame: I'm high ranked. Don't say it's QQ'ing..I just find it comical."

R9 isn't high, even at old IWAY days it still wasn't high. Again, rank doesn't say that much about someone skills. It depends on how you got that rank. People who play now are definitely way more skilled than people who played 6-7 years ago and stopped.

@Missing HB (because I fail at multiquoting)
"GvG and HA aren't active on non quest days, i think we've played enough together to know it.
You've had full run for a few hours, sure it was the quest time, but do you think it is the same on other days, and more importantly, will it remain the same after gw2 will be released ?"

Actually they are active, they have been active for last 2 weeks, and they're just getting more and more active. Well, at least HA is. Again, try actually playing it and you'll see. Also, I would like to know your IG name, since I don't remember playing with you.

Ballad Of Pwnage · Aug 02, 2012, 08:45 AM // 08:45

Even on quest days, HA and GvG aren't active.
Look back 2-3 years from now...remember how we used to have like 6 international districts in HA?
THAT was active....these days you see maybe 3 or 4 HoH wins per day...I wouldn't call that active.
Even on quest-days you'll see no more than 10 HoH wins.

GvG is also following the fate of HA. If you make a new guild and win 1 GvG you're definately in the top100 and probably close to the top50.
This is a clear indication that GvG is dying.
It used to be quite an achievement to hit the top100 in GvG...now it's not a big deal and you can pretty much start considering a guild 'good' once they hit the top 20 or so.

About mAT's...I think ANet doesn't have to stop them, because the lack of GvG's does that for them.
As previously stated, it will be tougher to get your qualifier points as a guild, because hardly anyone ever plays GvG, let alone GvG Tournaments. This will, in my opinion, result in only a few guilds participating in the Monthly's, therefor being 100% certain they get a trim.

This will probably even get rid of all the bronze trims, since we wont get enough guilds in the monthlies to award any bronze trims at all :P

Renowned Spartan · Aug 02, 2012, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by Winner

I saw you in district at euro time, you weren't even trying to play. District one was full and district 2 was half full. I don't understand why you insist on arguing instead of actually playing the game. We had quite a few consec, not many hall skips. HA is active.

Again, same thing for AT, play the euro one (daily C) and you won't have any problems getting QPs, if you're good enough that is.

Before the flame: I'm high ranked. Don't say it's QQ'ing..I just find it comical."

R9 isn't high, even at old IWAY days it still wasn't high. Again, rank doesn't say that much about someone skills. It depends on how you got that rank. People who play now are definitely way more skilled than people who played 6-7 years ago and stopped.

@Missing HB (because I fail at multiquoting)
"GvG and HA aren't active on non quest days, i think we've played enough together to know it.
You've had full run for a few hours, sure it was the quest time, but do you think it is the same on other days, and more importantly, will it remain the same after gw2 will be released ?"

Actually they are active, they have been active for last 2 weeks, and they're just getting more and more active. Well, at least HA is. Again, try actually playing it and you'll see. Also, I would like to know your IG name, since I don't remember playing with you.

I'm looking forward to finding all kinds of holes in this argument of yours. You have 4-5 people in this thread telling you otherwise, people more active in the game than yourself, higher ranked, more experienced, and generally more talented. Please, for your sake..stop. You're making a fool of yourself. Try and save face at this point..but just because I'm feeling like you need this lambasting today, here you go:

1st Bold: The rank reference I made wasn't to validate my skill but the ability to find a group in HA. Reading comprehension is your friend. Look at the context surrounding my quote. It was used to prove the point that even as a high ranked player, it is generally comical to see other high ranked players looking for r11+ for teammates when this game is dwindling and they are lucky to find r6+ given the state of the game. Again, reading comprehension will serve you well not only in game, but also in real life. I suggest brushing up on that skill you've obviously neglected.

Continuing on, r9+ has generally been accepted as the meta, for lack of a better term, for credentials/definition of a "high ranked group". Please, don't argue this. You're just going to look foolish. Has always been this way, is always going to be this way. Fact, not opinion.

I've always gotten a good laugh out of people wondering how others got fame. The majority of my fame, not that I owe you an explanation, was earned through B-spike with Mordrid Knight or R-Spike with Scary Something/O Azn O of God's Trusted Assassins [GTA]. I'll await the "LOLOL SPIKE FAME!!" comment. Balanced builds, apart from being great in GvG, are just a mask in HA for people trying to increase their e-rep on a game that is suffocating more and more each day. Who cares how someone got their fame? Some of the better teams I played with were established pvp'ers in GvG who loved the fact that in the matter of 2 seconds you could take an opposing players health from full to 0.

2nd Bold:District 1 was full? Really? Players were spamming the drop down menu to get into District 1 but kept getting denied and thrown back to District 2?....No..no they were not. District 1 was not full. District 1 was filled with idle players and 4-5 organized teams. Again, please do not use your minimap as a means by which you attempt to prove some feeble minded point.

Furthermore, District 2 is usually populated by sync'ers, baddies, people unfamiliar with HA and don't know better than to go to ID1, or people who don't want their builds seen before preparing to go into HA...and why is the latter point so true? Because they know they will shoot right to halls after one map game at UW. Yea man..that is sooo active. I enjoy playing one match and then getting thrown right into the thick of things in HoH for a 2 fame win and a charms blow-pop shit drop.

PS: Euro AT's, just like American time AT's, are filled with henchway teams with fire ele's and condition necro's. Don't try and make a comment like "that is if you're good enough" when given the current state of the game, I could get a couple button smashers and a few heroes and go win a silver trim.

Missing HB · Aug 02, 2012, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Right now logged in HA and there is only one team in the district, and noone in. So basically, it will take quite a lot of time to reach halls...

This isn't active.. Hero Battles could be active easily because you needed let's say 4 players to make it " look active " . For GvG, you need 4 guilds to make rotations, so that's at least 8 players...

For HA, you need at least 3 teams( that's 18 players) to make a match in UW and a match in halls, and that's a minimum...
Fact is that you said you played 12 hours and that's your choice, but i'm talking and arguing usually about how the average player think and i don't believe the average player plays 12 hours/day, nor does really enjoy HA( according to what i read on forums and in game)...

The fact is the thread talks about PvP after gw2, and we both know how it will be ..

Renowned Spartan · Aug 02, 2012, 05:02 PM // 17:02

That sounds very active!! (sarcasm).

Winner · Aug 03, 2012, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

I'm looking forward to finding all kinds of holes in this argument of yours. You have 4-5 people in this thread telling you otherwise, people more active in the game than yourself, higher ranked, more experienced, and generally more talented. Please, for your sake..stop. You're making a fool of yourself. Try and save face at this point..but just because I'm feeling like you need this lambasting today, here you go:

I have phoenix, I play at least 4 hours a day, I've been playing GW and HA for more than 6 years, and I'm winning every day. Your point is invalid.

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

1st Bold: The rank reference I made wasn't to validate my skill but the ability to find a group in HA. Reading comprehension is your friend. Look at the context surrounding my quote. It was used to prove the point that even as a high ranked player, it is generally comical to see other high ranked players looking for r11+ for teammates when this game is dwindling and they are lucky to find r6+ given the state of the game.

R9 is very low rank. Times are changing, R11 is kinda what is minimum considered to be a "high rank" these days. But hey, welcome back to the game! If you need any tips, feel free to ask me. Also, I don't have any problem getting R11+ team full within 15 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

Continuing on, r9+ has generally been accepted as the meta

No.

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

I've always gotten a good laugh out of people wondering how others got fame. The majority of my fame, not that I owe you an explanation, was earned through B-spike with Mordrid Knight or R-Spike with Scary Something/O Azn O of God's Trusted Assassins [GTA]. I'll await the "LOLOL SPIKE FAME!!" comment. Balanced builds, apart from being great in GvG, are just a mask in HA for people trying to increase their e-rep on a game that is suffocating more and more each day. Who cares how someone got their fame? Some of the better teams I played with were established pvp'ers in GvG who loved the fact that in the matter of 2 seconds you could take an opposing players health from full to 0.

Not sure if trolling or serious. I really hope you are trolling.

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

2nd Bold:District 1 was full? Really?

Yes, really. it was still very active even during late night american times.

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

Furthermore, District 2 is usually populated by sync'ers, baddies, people unfamiliar with HA and don't know better than to go to ID1, or people who don't want their builds seen before preparing to go into HA

No. People go to district 2 to get their team and builds ready and to organize tactics, maybe wait for last couple players to join.

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

PS: Euro AT's, just like American time AT's, are filled with henchway teams with fire ele's and condition necro's.

No, it's not, top teams are usually participating in that AT.

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

I could get a couple button smashers and a few heroes and go win a silver trim.

No. You can't win a silver trim with blood spike. But feel free to try.

Wielder Of Magic · Aug 03, 2012, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Originally Posted by Winner

I've been playing GW and HA for more than 6 years,

I highly doubt that, since you seem to think that 1 district with players for a few hours equals active.
If you really played for over 6 years you would know better then this.
and if HA actually was active, my team would not have to wait for 45 minutes at uw for a match, or 1 hour after zaishen.

Winner · Aug 03, 2012, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by Wielder Of Magic

I highly doubt that, since you seem to think that 1 district with players for a few hours equals active.
If you really played for over 6 years you would know better then this.
and if HA actually was active, my team would not have to wait for 45 minutes at uw for a match, or 1 hour after zaishen.

There are almost no restarts (unless you play at 9am euro time) so yes HA is active. Of course it was more active back then, that is a clear fact. But that doesn't mean its not active now, even tho there are obviously less people than before.

Renowned Spartan · Aug 03, 2012, 03:47 PM // 15:47

I have phoenix, I play at least 4 hours a day, I've been playing GW and HA for more than 6 years, and I'm winning every day. Your point is invalid.

At the pace I was accumulating fame, r12 would have been child's play. Your phoenix is not impressive and your teams are mostly full of fail players, ie:your fuse. I took out your team with some baddies playing ritspike the other night, actually. It was quite comical. Back to the point..out of your "4 hours of playing" a day you probably sit idle waiting for a match two hours a day. I'd be willing to bet my last dollar.

R9 is very low rank. Times are changing, R11 is kinda what is minimum considered to be a "high rank" these days. But hey, welcome back to the game! If you need any tips, feel free to ask me. Also, I don't have any problem getting R11+ team full within 15 minutes.

If I need tips on how to succesfully get de-flowered by ritspike as balanced in capture points format in HoH, I'll give you a call. How pathetic - I almost pitied your team..almost.

Not sure if trolling or serious. I really hope you are trolling.

How is saying I played B-Spike with Mordrid Knight...trolling? Mr. "I've been playing for 6 years and still lose to ritspike" probably has never even heard the name before. Please, humor me.

Yes, really. it was still very active even during late night american times.

Uhm, what? 1 District with 50 players cumulatively and 4 organized teams isn't active. What's it going to take to get it through that tiny brain of yours?

No. People go to district 2 to get their team and builds ready and to organize tactics, maybe wait for last couple players to join.

No, people get shuffled into District 2 when they're zoning into HA..and not because of a full District 1. Also, they go in there, or other euro districts, to hide builds..afterall, this is build wars.

No, it's not, top teams are usually participating in that AT.

Wrong again.

No. You can't win a silver trim with blood spike. But feel free to try.

Good joke. Show's how involved you are in what's left of "top tier" pvp if you think hench teams aren't winning trims.

tl;dr: Your stupidity knows no boundaries. For someone who plays (and brags about doing so) 18 hours or whatever absurd hillarious number per day, you're a baddie. Guru has spoken.

Next?

Missing HB · Aug 03, 2012, 04:09 PM // 16:09

6 pm : HA is empty 6 guys in the district including afks, last hall win 7 hours ago
No B At in GvG, last gvg on B 21 hours ago( although top100 is low rating now..)
Codex is empty ( well there is one team but they aren't getting in so..)
I'm alone in AB district american 1.

I'm sorry but this isn't active. Maybe the game is at 11pm, but that doesn't mean active, since not everyone is going to play the game at 11pm...

Saying something, then saying the total opposite a few months later only to get people bored isn't going to get anywhere...

Way2dead · Aug 03, 2012, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

No. You can't win a silver trim with blood spike. But feel free to try.[/

Good joke. Show's how involved you are in what's left of "top tier" pvp if you think hero teams aren't winning trims.

They aren't, especially since they are not allowed in any form of pvp. No one is getting silver with a henchie atm

Renowned Spartan · Aug 03, 2012, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by Way2dead

They aren't, especially since they are not allowed in any form of pvp. No one is getting silver with a henchie atm

When people refer to heroway..it goes hand in hand with henchway -fyi. That is what was meant. Henchway is allowed in GvG to clarify.

Also, last AT that was played was I believe the one my guild won last night at approximately 1:00am US time.

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Thanks's for the update Missing H B. You confirmed what most of us level headed players such as yourself already knew. HA is not active except for quest days and double fame weekends.

fowlero · Aug 04, 2012, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Henchway isn't winning silvers either though. It'd be easier to just make the point that it's pretty easy to get silver currently.

Missing HB · Aug 05, 2012, 08:08 AM // 08:08

Yet the point of the thread is about how the game will be after gw2 release..
Obviously we can't see everything in the moon, but according to last months, we can guess some things...

There are around 35 guilds participating today generally, which mean only a few aren't getting a trim.. Can we really say that there will still be 35 guilds playing on august mat or even furthermore, on december 2012 mat ? probably not ..

His point wasn't to mean that henchways are beating humans and getting silvers, no. He meant that henchways will just get silvers/bronzes without even playing due to inactivity.

Winner · Aug 06, 2012, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by Renowned Spartan

How is saying I played B-Spike with Mordrid Knight...trolling? Mr. "I've been playing for 6 years and still lose to ritspike" probably has never even heard the name before. Please, humor me.

I never lost to rit spike. Blood spike, invoke, iway, vimway, rspike and fame gained from similar gimmick builds doesn't mean anything, it just makes you look bad as a player, as you obviously can't play proper build.

Also, no: henchway team never won a silver cape. At least for the next few months there will still be enough real teams to prevent any henchways from winning silver capes.

Renowned Spartan · Aug 06, 2012, 12:10 PM // 12:10

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Originally Posted by Winner

I never lost to rit spike. Blood spike, invoke, iway, vimway, rspike and fame gained from similar gimmick builds doesn't mean anything, it just makes you look bad as a player, as you obviously can't play proper build.

Also, no: henchway team never won a silver cape. At least for the next few months there will still be enough real teams to prevent any henchways from winning silver capes.

Interesting, you never lost to ritspike? I have at least 6 players on NASA that can attest to deflowering your team in HA..rift 3 2 1, strike 2 1. Oh weird, dead bodies flying, +42 faction popping up on my screen - oh right, you guys got rolled.

Equating Ranger spike and B spike to IWAY and Vimway..LMAO. My god are you bad - not only are you ill informed but you're also a mockery to HA. I'm surprised people join your teams. Wait..no I'm not because 90% of them are baddies who, like I said, use a balanced build that fails about 65% of the time..which is terrible given the state of HA.

Stop embarassing yourself bra.

Winner · Aug 06, 2012, 12:35 PM // 12:35

You have no idea who I am I guess, which is quite sad

And yes, I never lost to rit spike.
All those gimmick, easy builds are what got people away from ha. And trolls, I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of them.

I am glad that those builds don't work that well in GvG nowadays. It is still bad that people got high champ titles in the past by blood spiking, without using their brains ever.