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SmokingHotImolation · Jun 13, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Hi!

The title pretty much says it all.
- Post your best eliteless builds, and explain why its good, and why it doesnt need an elite.

mistokibbles · Jun 13, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

[Patient Spirit] Do you really need anything else?

Axel Zinfandel · Jun 13, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by mistokibbles

[Patient Spirit] Do you really need anything else?

[Dwayna's Kiss]

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zling · Jun 14, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19

I can show you plenty of fine builds without elites, the thing is though that if you bothered fitting in an elite it would have been better...
take the classic Ranger template as an example, instead of using an elite we'll just use a non elite skill...

[skill]sloth hunter's shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

still a very good and effective build. would it be even better with an elite? YES!

zelgadissan · Jun 14, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

While it's always beneficial to use an elite there are still workable builds that, while better with an elite, will still do fine without one.

[Critical Agility][Critical Defenses][Golden Fox Strike][Mantis Touch][Trampling Ox][Falling Lotus Strike][Death Blossom][empty]

Feel free to place [Resurrection Signet], [Death's Retreat], [Critical Strike] to force-keep enchantments up, or similar in empty spot.

Edit: Slight change to give two combos instead of one huge-ass one.

[Critical Agility][Critical Defenses][Golden Phoenix Strike][Death Blossom][You Move Like a Dwarf!][Falling Lotus Strike][Critical Strike][Death's Retreat]

zelgadissan · Jun 14, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

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Originally Posted by SmokingHotImolation

I was just wondering if some people out there had an eliteless build that they were convinved was just better off.

I know my build that I posted above ([Critical Agility][Critical Defenses][Golden Phoenix Strike][Death Blossom][You Move Like a Dwarf!][Falling Lotus Strike][Critical Strike][Death's Retreat]) would be a lot better if you replaced [Death's Retreat] with just about any elite; the one that strikes me more than any other would be [Way of the Empty Palm]. That said, I'd say it's still viable. But pretty much no build is better off without the elite.

mistokibbles · Jun 14, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40

[Patient Spirit][Dwayna's Kiss][Dismiss Condition][Protective Spirit][Guardian][Shield of Absorption][Cure Hex][Rebirth]
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Alex the Great · Jun 14, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

[sever artery][gash][final thrust][frenzy][rush][healing signet][bull's strike]rez

seriously, swords don't even need an elite!

Turbobusa · Jun 14, 2008, 08:57 AM // 08:57

[golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][twisting fangs][critical agility][assassin's remedy][death's charge][critical eye]

Works ok.
Rangers cheat, they have distracting shot.

Stormlord Alex · Jun 14, 2008, 09:13 AM // 09:13

[screaming shot][distracting shot][savage shot][apply poison][mending touch][natural stride][troll unguent][resurrection signet]
14 exp, 10 marks, 10 ws
Screaming could also be [[pin down], [[debilitating shot] or [[sloth hunters shot]

[dismember][body blow][bull's strike][distracting strike][shock][frenzy][rush][resurrection signet]
14 axe, 13 strength
Lacking +dmg on dismember, I'd take Distracting over the standard DChop for a stronger spike.

[dwayna's kiss][patient spirit][cure hex][dismiss condition][aegis][protective spirit][shield of absorption][gole]
14 heal, rest split in DF/prot
Standard hybrid, with WoH subbed for Patient/Kiss

eliteless builds are really easy, just take a good build (WoH hybrid, shockaxe etc.) and replace the elite with it's non-elite counterpart.

Tyla · Jun 14, 2008, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Meh, Ranger builds have already been took... (Cripshot, but with Pindown instead of Cripshot)

[wearying strike][signet of malice][eremites attack][heart of fury][guiding hands][shadow walk][dash][resurrection signet]
Like AoM Dervish, but Signet of Malice can be used on every spike.

I'm not sure if the signet has an aftercast though...

blue.rellik · Jun 14, 2008, 10:28 AM // 10:28

[spirit rift][ancestor's rage][splinter weapon][destruction][essence strike][spirit light][life][weapon of warding]

I ran something like that with my rit until I could cap [offering of spirit]