Curse

Turbobusa · Nov 17, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Arcane zeal?!? LOL yeah right
order of undeath, lmao. Its awesome.

Dronte · Nov 18, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09

As my primary is warrior, the worst elite for me:
[skill]Primal Rage[/skill]

Aldric · Nov 19, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

Necro: Order of Undeath: Let's make MM's even easier to kill!

You can spam that nonstop in PVE in conjunction with BotM and never come close to dying without too much trouble. Not even close to being a bad elite

MBP · Nov 19, 2007, 01:09 AM // 01:09

not to mention [skill]animate vampiric horror[/skill]

ohh and worst elite: [skill]avatar of balthazar[/skill]

Magikarp · Nov 19, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

lol wut? That's not even the worst dervish elite, or even the worst of the avatars (I think Lyssa takes that title)...

lol.. no.. AoB IS the worst derv elite

overall by far, the most epic failure as far as elites go is TEASE.

so so so so many flaws in its design.

ensoriki · Nov 19, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Wastrel's Collapse is the worst elite in the game.

Xinrae's weapon isn't bad

Put wastrels on any class, and it still sucks.

Best use I can find is Wastrels+ maelstrom...and that sucks too!

Tease doesn't suck like you think magikarp.

Use it on someone whos not attacking you, they won't realize until you've moved a distance from them. Then simply Strafe and Bows/spears/wands and kite melee

Wastrels is still the biggest crap ever.
Onslaught < AoB

Does not fit in with the dervish at all, and why waste the elite slot on any other profession!?

Stormlord Alex · Nov 19, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Shadow Walk + Tease followed by Distortion is fun, and Tease is a very nasty Hex capable of seriously crippling most classes. I wouldn't say it's anywhere near the worst elite, it just needs more work to... well... work.

Magikarp · Nov 19, 2007, 03:10 AM // 03:10

if i need 3 skills to run any skill, its useless.

tease has no use for any class, and especailly a mes who cant afford to get so close. frustration, arcane con, migrane, anything really is better, and a lot of them arent even elites, AND dont put you at risk of death.

Stormlord Alex · Nov 19, 2007, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

if i need 3 skills to run any skill, its useless.
.

Searing Flames needs just about a whole bar to run.
Rodgort's Invocation needs Mind Blast/Ele Attunement + Fire Attunement.

Neither of these skills are close to useless.

And I dunno where you play, but in AB Shadow Walking to an opposing ele doesn't get me killed. Maybe in PvE, but PvE encouters are mobs that you ought to be rolling before recharges come into consideration; or bosses where Tease's effect is actually rather spiffy. And unless it's a nasty point-blank ele boss, it honestly doesn't matter where you are, and can safely Tease away.

Magikarp · Nov 19, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

i dont ab, and in any other form of pvp, its major fail. in pve, unless its you and a team against one target, mobs will find you, and if you hide so far away you cant cast, its pointless

SF and Rog DOES req energy management skills, and utility, but its for effective play, not so they dont lose a skill cause they get hit. SF-glowing gaze is a combo, not a diversion to not get hit.

TGgold · Nov 19, 2007, 04:26 AM // 04:26

I think Clamor of Souls is possibly the worst elite in the game. It does medicore, condionally AoE damage. It's just...not worth taking. Ever.

Magikarp · Nov 19, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

nice call TG, i honestly forgot about that skill. rethinking the post, i went and looked at them all again..

top picks:

amity
skull crack
tease
glimmering mark (sorry, i just dont find it worth "elite" status)
whirling axe (again.. this sucks if you play a real warrior)
primal rage (this would OWN if it was a skill, not a stance)
"coward!" (not worth your elite)
word of censure
balths pendulum
life sheath
weaken knees (what??)

ok ok.. im writing this in order of me seeing them, and i still feel like i missed a few, and im only 1/3 done listing..

there are a LOT of crappy elites.. its more sad looking at them all like this lol

i still stick to what i said about tease, but i'll change my top worst to:

[skill]Extend Conditions[/skill]

and

[skill]"Incoming!"[/skill]

A Leprechaun · Nov 19, 2007, 01:54 PM // 13:54

[skill]Magehunter's Smash[/skill]
As a warrior I have to say I have never used this, well too conditional in my opinion. It almost looks like a good skill but when you use it you can tell its not worth its elite status.

Ok so its a KD, thats a good thing, but then the hammer line has quite a few KDs. Its 5 adrenaline, which is ok but considering Hammer bash is 6 adrenaline its not exactly mega-cheap. And then it only KDs if your foe is enchanted, a big drawback, even hammer bash will KD any foe.

~A Leprechaun~

Crom The Pale · Nov 24, 2007, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Oh WOW, I found a way to make Primal Rage actually work!!!

All you have to due is use "I am the strongest" + Signet of Strength + enough consumables to raise your axe and str attributes to 20.

Now this will cost you about 1K every 10 min and you won't deal as much damage as say a war with only Dslash and FGJ and no other skills....but yea hey this really does sorta kinda maybe in a wierd way work

ensoriki · Nov 24, 2007, 05:04 AM // 05:04

Why isn't Wastrels collapse on your List Magikarp?

Generally wastrel's will Never work, unless you have them in a high knock down storm which is hard to begin with.
Or you have to be some black out sin or something in which case Wastrel's still fails.

Wastrel's collapse is crap because its so unusable >.>

Magikarp · Nov 24, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Why isn't Wastrels collapse on your List Magikarp?

Generally wastrel's will Never work, unless you have them in a high knock down storm which is hard to begin with.
Or you have to be some black out sin or something in which case Wastrel's still fails.

Wastrel's collapse is crap because its so unusable >.>

lol, it is, i just got tired of listing the millions of super crappy elites.

pumpkin pie · Nov 27, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

Quick Shot, don't think I will need to use that elite, waste my skill slots

Magikarp · Nov 27, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

Quick Shot, don't think I will need to use that elite, waste my skill slots

really? quick shot's one of my fav ranger elites. its got some really cool, almost spike-like capabilities if you know how to use it.

Kashrlyyk · Dec 02, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15

@~A Leprechaun~: Hammer bash looses all your adrenaline.

@Magicarp: glimmering mark: Blinding someone by attacking with a lightning weapon. That is worth an elite.

@pumpkin pie: QuickShot can be uses right after an attack. Both arrows hit very fast after each other and apply the effects of a preparation or a weapon skill.

A Leprechaun · Dec 02, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

In PvE I would think that having to hit an enchanted foe is a bigger drawback than losing all adrenaline, all you need is a bit of adrenaline management and a brain to get around the lose all adrenaline , but if your foes not enchanted it a waste of your elite slot.
I just said that skills because I have pretty much never found an areas where it would be useful, when for just 2 more adrenaline I could use Devastating.

~A Leprechaun~