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Oh a GW forum · Nov 02, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Primal rage... hands down. Burst of aggression + go for the eyes totally blows this elite away... it really needs a buff, it's totally outdated.

Nero · Nov 03, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

"The Power Is Yours!"

the captain planet reference elite should've been better

Gorebrex · Nov 03, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by dgb

The key to quick shot is it's interupt speed activation and fast recharge. With it you can come close to doubling your rate of fire.

What you do is start normal auto-attacking. After your first normal arrow is released, immediately hit quick shot. Because it's interupt speed it launches the arrow while the other is still in the air and because it moves twice as fast it catches the previous arrow to hit at the same time. Now wait for another auto-attack and hit quick shot immediately after. It takes a while to get into the rhythym of it, but once you do you should be getting massive returns out of it.

Barrage outclasses it for general play, but for pure single target DPS it's the best you have under ranger.

Id rather have SS as my elite /hides from torch wielding mob
Yes, you can time it so your a simultaneous attack with 2 arrows, but I think Barrage would be more useful, because you dont often find single mobs(Dont PvP, but Im sure itd be good there), unless its a boss, and even then theres usually a "entourage" around it.

skillsbas8 · Nov 04, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Quick Shot is much more potent in PVP. It increases your arrow fire rate, allowing you to spike rapidly and hit a target almost immediately every second. Barrage is decent in PVE and loses effectiveness in PVP. Quick shot can be made very potent in some builds.

Eilsys · Nov 04, 2006, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Unyielding Aura, definitely.

Skuld · Nov 05, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18

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Originally Posted by Stoneys Rock

although I am unaware of the effect of primal rage I will say something about disabled skills

not really that awful gift of health (non elite) disables all healing prayer for monks but goes nicely with the blessed light monk for pvp. (its a template if you wanna look and see) Furthermore some elite fit nicely with some builds and some simply do not just remember before you criticise one mans trash is another mans treasure or 'one mans bad elite is another persons l33t elite ;P or something like that...

Monks using GoH don't use any other healing prayers. Warriors with primal rage presumably have 7 other skills.

Saradoc Vega · Nov 05, 2006, 11:34 AM // 11:34

I don't think that there are any really bad elites.
e.g. even Unyielding Aura may be useful (mostly in PvE) - quite quick rez providing full energy, in the middle of the battle, just can remove it after defending foes, and then have time for other ressurection skills.

but Primal Rage is really a bit far from perfection

Son of Urza · Nov 05, 2006, 10:18 PM // 22:18

I really like Shatterstone now. SS+Vapor Blade's ~350 damage. Rainbow spike anyone?

Keystone signet STILL sucks. I created a mesmer using signets, Mantra of Inscriptions, Symbolic Celerity, and the Artificer's Armor, and I still refuse to use Keystone Signet. Recharge down to about . . . 15 seconds would be nice, so that together with the two skills I mentioned it's 1/2 sec cast time, 7.5 sec recharge time.

Now THAT would be worth using.

Primal Rage also kinda sucks too, although the name is awesome.

Jesse · Nov 05, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by phasola

Famine

not for only melee and SV and AV. It chains like EoE pre nerf.

ll Templar ll · Nov 08, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Alright, this one is a bit more difficult that the other one.

Off the top of my head, the worst Elite is basically any Ranger Spirit Elite. But more specifically, Equinox, because it rarely helps you. Sure, you can combo it with Arcane Languor, but that's 2 Elites. And it doesn't do much.

I've got the build for equinox but its for Heros ascent

Gorebrex · Nov 08, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillsbas8

Quick Shot is much more potent in PVP. It increases your arrow fire rate, allowing you to spike rapidly and hit a target almost immediately every second. Barrage is decent in PVE and loses effectiveness in PVP. Quick shot can be made very potent in some builds.

I imagine youre right, but since I dont PvP, I cant say anything about that aspect of it.

maraxusofk · Nov 09, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Sorry quick shot used to be good but it sux now after the nerf that fixed its speed. why have quick shot when u can have punishing shot? (close enuff speed, but it has extra dmg and interrupts)

Karomi Saoshi · Nov 09, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

I think pious assault is so pointless. :P

Trakata · Nov 09, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

I hate Keystone Signet. I probably dislike something else more, but I'm not logged in at the moment so I don't know. I vote Keystone for now.

Arkantos · Nov 09, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

Sorry quick shot used to be good but it sux now after the nerf that fixed its speed. why have quick shot when u can have punishing shot? (close enuff speed, but it has extra dmg and interrupts)

And a difference in energy cost and recharge.

LightningHell · Nov 09, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillsbas8

Quick Shot is much more potent in PVP. It increases your arrow fire rate, allowing you to spike rapidly and hit a target almost immediately every second. Barrage is decent in PVE and loses effectiveness in PVP. Quick shot can be made very potent in some builds.

I'd say...

No. If you want to spike, use something on the lines of Dual/Punishing/etc.

My personal worst elite...really can't think of any at the moment, possibly Energy Boon or Keystone Sig.

Arcador · Nov 09, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

-Keystone signet is still bad.
-Energy Boon is bad too. Good for monk or necro maybe but they don't have primary energy storage.
-Primal rage is efficiently weak too. TOO MUCH conditional. Good for dps on the dumies only, since in real combat situation you will need to use other skill pretty often.
-Withdraw hexes - a way too much backside compare to the boost that is almost imposible to use.

btw with the last update they did pretty good job boosting a lot elites that felt weak, but I think some needs more attention

Apple · Nov 09, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

I'd say...

No. If you want to spike, use something on the lines of Dual/Punishing/etc.

*cough*
pm me for info on why Quickshot is now better than punishing for spike. You'll be surprised :P

Sophitia Leafblade · Nov 09, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

Ill take you word for it but can Quick shot interupt, i think not

Apple · Nov 09, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

It cant interrupt, but well... it's exempt from one of the real problems with punishing shot, let me just say that.