Curse

blue.rellik · May 29, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Moebius /Death Blossum will outclass the damage from just about any caster or weapon user. Incredibly consistent AoE armour-ignoring damage? Yes please

xDusT II · May 29, 2008, 06:20 AM // 06:20

Buffed physicals output the highest amount of damage in the game.

zling · May 29, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25

Moebius+Blossom with a Necro that has [skill]Weaken Armor[/skill][skill]Mark of Pain[/skill][skill]Barbs[/skill] and maybe even [skill]Rigor Mortis[/skill]

Panais · May 29, 2008, 12:34 PM // 12:34

junundu lol
but really id say necro, para, mesmer

Turbobusa · May 29, 2008, 12:37 PM // 12:37

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Originally Posted by credit

Discord hexway with your heroes blows up PvE.

seconded.
With some minions thrown in the middle, it is a click to win build.

Tyla · May 29, 2008, 02:21 PM // 14:21

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Originally Posted by Schmerdro

Curse Necros also have access to Barbs and mark of Pain, which clearly makes them the best for constant AoE armor-ignoring damage.

And without physicals, it can't be the most consistent damage dealer.

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Those Assassin and Warrior builds are much less reliable and efficient... and the Warrior can't even do AoE damage >_>

[whirlwind attack] [triple chop] [cyclone axe] [hundred blades] Ohai.

Buff your Warrior up with [[Splinter Weapon] for the strongest AoE damage in the game too.

kostolomac · May 29, 2008, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Necros do the most damage from the casters , while i think warriors would be better damage dealers from assassins due to strength.

Steboy93 · May 29, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

[skill]dragon slash[/skill] + [skill]"for great Justice!"[/skill]

=Dead HM stuff

Marverick · May 29, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by kostolomac

Necros do the most damage from the casters , while i think warriors would be better damage dealers from assassins due to strength.

Dslash is around 70 DPSish. Moebius - DB is around 90 DPS, not counting the AoE splash damage, as well as the more frequent hits, and not factoring in armor.

Strength is horrible for damage....

fenix · May 30, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Warriors > Sins, because Sins need buffs or they die.

Plus, if a Sin gets blocked/dodged/misses, gg entire bar. Warriors can also offer up PARTY support with Save Yourselves, and whatever else you want to throw on.

Use a sin if you want to die lots.

bj91x · May 30, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Best damage? Or most consistent?

Best damage would go to a N. Multiple SSed enemies grouped together and attacking fast = $_$

Most consistent? I'd have to go with W and A. W and A can dish out damage in nearly any situation. Unlike an E or a D, they don't need bunched up enemies for huge damage. Unlike a N or a Me, they don't require enemy action to determine damage. Unlike a P or a R, you can't miss because the enemy moved (since arrows and spears don't have homing capabilities).

This is based on general play without counter builds in mind. Meaning not counting dodge stances, blind conditions, daze conditions, slowed down spell cast times, etc. If you take those into consideration... then it's next to impossible to say.

Who deals more daamge? A blind W hacking away an enemy who is dodging with no way to counter these? Or a dazed caster who is constantly being interrupted? >_>

xDusT II · May 30, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

I don't see how people keep saying SS is the most consistent damage dealer, considering it's nothing more than a mob softener that's thrown on a low priority target.

DarkNecrid · May 30, 2008, 08:26 AM // 08:26

Monk.

versus level 1 foes.

Tyla · May 30, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by bj91x

Who deals more daamge? A blind W hacking away an enemy who is dodging with no way to counter these? Or a dazed caster who is constantly being interrupted? >_>

Condition removal says hi.

Blocking? Target switching / enchant removal says hi.

legacyofkain85 · May 30, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

for hm anything that does armor ignoring damage ,and altho if i hate to admit it yes Ursan is probably the most consistent dmg dealer in hm (could be wrong tho),played around with discord and a 100+dmg spamable is quite nice to

Stormlord Alex · May 30, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Physicals, in short.

assassins (DB/MS spammers), warrs (DSlash godmode) or dervs (WS or just... the tree) all deal more damage than eles can ever hope to (+dmg is armour-ignoring, therefore not crap vs PvE enemies); alonsgside being able to be buffed out the wazzoo with support +dmg skills.

[[splinter weapon], [[barbs], and [[mark of pain] make even the dumbest wammo a better damage-dealer than any ele.
Sad, but true.

Enix · May 30, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

The long and short of it is... it depends. My girlfriend and I usually vanq with 2 Ursan (her and me), a Double Attuned fire ele, Sandstorm/Warder, MM, BiP/Prot nec with extinguish (rethinking this one), and a WoH monk and a HB Monk.

Are you talking about your ele, specifically? If you are fighting destroyers, Water is nice - Ether Renewa, Water Attunement, Malestrom, Ice Spikes, and Deep Freeze combined with Alchemic Acid, Snowstorm, Great Dwarf Armor can chew through them pretty fast.

As far as raw, spammable damage is concerned, Echo SS necs still take the cake imo. Give them Enfeebling Blood for some defense, and have a MM with Discord... pwnage.

HM requires a balance of offense and defense if you are running H/H. Keep that in mind.

luminoire · May 30, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by mistokibbles

And how do earth eles do the most damage? sorry for my ignorance

[magnetic surge][obsidian flame][sliver armor]

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Div · May 30, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Asking for the most consistent damage dealer makes no sense. It's like asking for the "best" dervish build.