Curse

natural_Causes · Jun 04, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

I am making a new character to do some hardcore farms with, and I'm not sure which one to make. I want to use it to farm UW and other places, like raptors. I have started an Ele, and gotten her to level 5, and I'm not sure whether to ditch her to make a sin, keep her, or delete an delete a PvP character for a sin (not to big on the 3rd option, don't have much playing time over the summer.) What do you guys think would be better?

Ultima2 · Jun 04, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

no brainer, ele all the way

Axel Zinfandel · Jun 04, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Sin is a no brainer. With just four/five skills you can farm pretty much anything and run pretty much anywhere.

AceOfNoobs · Jun 04, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

I guess it's just preference, but if you want to farm UW, I'd say sin because of the perma sf chaos plains farming build which nets in lots of ectos.

natural_Causes · Jun 04, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by AceOfNoobs

I guess it's just preference, but if you want to farm UW, I'd say sin because of the perma sf chaos plains farming build which nets in lots of ectos.

Isn't it possible to farm Planes with an Ele? Or is that to inefficient to bother with?

AceOfNoobs · Jun 04, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by natural_Causes

Isn't it possible to farm Planes with an Ele? Or is that to inefficient to bother with?

Yea you can farm CP with ele too, I guess i just like sin. Not sure if Sin is faster, but I'm not sure if eles can kill aatxes as well.

Koricen · Jun 04, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Everybody loves to Sin. Sin all the way.

V E R A T T A · Jun 04, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49

can do perma SF with a ele/sin?

AceOfNoobs · Jun 04, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by V E R A T T A

can do perma SF with a ele/sin?

Yea, but less margin for error.

natural_Causes · Jun 04, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09

I have heard of Ele's taking heros to UW to help kill the Aatexes at the start.

AceOfNoobs · Jun 04, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

You will get less drops then, because drops get assigned to heroes too, you just don't see it.

V E R A T T A · Jun 04, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

can you elaborate on the build or setup for a E/A to solo uw

natural_Causes · Jun 04, 2008, 02:22 AM // 02:22

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Originally Posted by AceOfNoobs

You will get less drops then, because drops get assigned to heroes too, you just don't see it.

The heros help you kill the first enemies, then you flag them out of radar range, so you get all the drops.

AceOfNoobs · Jun 04, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Aatxes drop ectos too ^_^, but sure that works.

Riceboi · Jun 04, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

SIN ftw, and this is coming from an elementalist lover. lol

Dr Dimento · Jun 04, 2008, 05:52 AM // 05:52

If you're going to get your Sin leveled and farming within the next month or so.......go sin. With the ease of farming the UW for ectos it really is only a matter of time until it is "re-nerfed". Once that happens, Ele will once again be the uber-farmer.

code1101 · Jun 04, 2008, 08:38 AM // 08:38

my ele is my main char and the center of my focus. he is the the char that gets everything in his HoM first.

for about a year and a half this was true until the last update.

SIN FOR THE WIN.

I can even solo hard missions (ones that I failed to do several times with pugs on my ele) and solo like with no heros or henchies ... just me

the only thing I fear is that SF might get nerfed ... that would be soooo hard ... its just like giving a candy to a kid then taking it back again

Seriously, you have to make a sin ... and this is coming from an ele who plays GW just to farm with his ele.

its just like the days back when I dumped my 55 monk for my new ele. now both my 55 monk and me ele are in the closet and my sin is running naked and teasing those mobs that cant touch him

Flightmare · Jun 04, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

It's just my math, but with glyph of swiftness and deadly paradox you will reach the 50% faster recharge cap, which lets Shadow Form recharge in 30 seconds. At 12 Shadow Arts, Shadow Form Will last for 25 seconds. The +20% enchanting mod will lengthen the duration with 5 seconds. So thats a 30 seconds duration and a 30 seconds recharge. BUT Shadow Form has a casting time of 2/3 seconds. So you WILL lose your HP and are vurnerable for those 2/3 seconds (lets make it 1 second, some margin of error). So ele seems to be a no-go if it's purely made for 24/7 Shadow Form usage.

Eles still are useful for hit and run farms like with sliver armor or a bunch of fire AoE spells, shadow of haste in and dash out. Sin can do the same though, only with slightly less damage output, but a longer shadow form duration for safer runs (but again, it's not needed anymore since you can perma-form now).

I've allways prefered sin myself (not only the farming part) and it got even better after the PvP-PvE-split

Axel Zinfandel · Jun 05, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by code1101

the only thing I fear is that SF might get nerfed ... that would be soooo hard ... its just like giving a candy to a kid then taking it back again

As much as I fear the same, I don't think it's likely.

AceOfNoobs · Jun 05, 2008, 04:59 AM // 04:59

Don't be afraid because even if SF gets nerfed back to its original duration, you can use the A/me perma sf variant.