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Old Aug 09, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28   #21
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Spawning Power. I'd have liked to see it completely reworked.
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34   #22
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complaining about Avatar of Balth.... priceless.
I'm not saying that AoB sucks completely, it's just a lot less favorable becuase it can be replicated easily by a few simple skills (even moreso in PvE). I still would like to see it get changed to have maybe a damage bonus or AP and IAS (not added on of course. That would make it a bit more on par with the other forms, and more like the nature of the form..
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59   #23
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I don't care about buffs, I think they should leave majority of the things as they are. Wota was perfectly fine the way it was...then they had to go introduce a speed buff to it which in turn caused massive use of it with scythe and spear builds and that led to the most ridiculous nerf it could have gotten (being only available while using daggers). Now the skill is useless as you don't even receive the critical % for other weapons. An assassin using a dagger could do a much better job without using wota and using a better elite in its place. Wota requires level 15 JUST for 20% speed and the bonus critical is basically a useless addition for dagger based assassins.
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #24
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04   #25
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[Ray of Judgment] this skill just epic sucks...
[Healing Hands] see above
[Peace and Harmony] see above two
[Quick Shot] I'd like to see a +damage added to it, not really worth taking right now with Penetrating & Sundering Attack out there
[Ferocious Strike] increase damage, right now it's just completely overshadowed by Enraged Lunge and even more so with the newly buffed Scavenger Strike. Or make it cause cracked armor.
[Expert's Dexterity] would've been better to just lower the energy boost... now it's even more useless than before
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46   #26
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Yet another skill balance goes past without [[Hundred Blades] getting buffed. It's honestly not that hard to add some +damage or something.
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16   #27
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I still would like to see it get changed to have maybe a damage bonus or AP and IAS (not added on of course. That would make it a bit more on par with the other forms, and more like the nature of the form..
Damage bonus could be fine, but AL bonus must be toned down or removed then.

+40AC bonus is a HUGE boost already. With also a Damage Bonus in place you could potentially get +100% damage with AoB+AoHM together, 110+ unstrippable armor level, while also retaining a fully usable skillbar.

Put Eternal Aura to make this mantainable indefinitely... And there you go, nothing's gonna stop this.

No, thanks.
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28   #28
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Damage bonus could be fine, but AL bonus must be toned down or removed then.

+40AC bonus is a HUGE boost already. With also a Damage Bonus in place you could potentially get +100% damage with AoB+AoHM together, 110+ unstrippable armor level, while also retaining a fully usable skillbar.

Put Eternal Aura to make this mantainable indefinitely... And there you go, nothing's gonna stop this.

No, thanks.
the +40 armor is meh. addidional armor is useless when you have SY.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 01:57 PM // 13:57   #29
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Hrm...I disagree with a few skills listed here by others.

[Healing Hands] is alright...not great, but alright. Useful in steel wall.
[Depravity] does NOT need a buff. At least, not for PvP, where it's scary powerful against casters. Obviously since e-denial is pointless in PvE, it could use something there, but not PvP, please.

As for the elites most in need of buff?
[Quick Shot][Amity][Seeping Wound] are the ones that come to mind offhand
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04   #30
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Hrm...I disagree with a few skills listed here by others.

[Healing Hands] is alright...not great, but alright. Useful in steel wall.
really? Healing hands is just silly. Healing seed outclasses it as a monk skill because its non-elite. all it does is encourage people to use healing prayers on front liners.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11   #31
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I am still hoping we will once see a reworked cursing elite which will be a combo of [enfeebling blood] and [shadow of fear].
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11   #32
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IT WAS THE ONE MONK ELITE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUFFED. IT'S A FUN ELITE, A WELL-THOUGHT OUT ELITE, AND A BALANCE-ABLE ELITE.

If you can't tell, I am sufficiently annoyed that the one elite I cared about, the only skill I wanted a buff for, didn't get buffed.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15   #33
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IT WAS THE ONE MONK ELITE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUFFED. IT'S A FUN ELITE, A WELL-THOUGHT OUT ELITE, AND A BALANCE-ABLE ELITE.

If you can't tell, I am sufficiently annoyed that the one elite I cared about, the only skill I wanted a buff for, didn't get buffed.
you forgot

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they also needed a buff imo
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #34
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I think some of Tactics line should be reworked. Probably 60% of the non-elite Paragaon skills are full of fail. Lyrics? C'mon. It's nice to be an Imbagon and all, but I would like some variety that isn't dull. Fast Casting needs more skills for Core/Prophecies. Blood Magic does need to be reworked. And I would like to see more PBAoE's like Death Swarm. It's a pretty cool skill.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30   #35
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How's Avatar of Balthazar useless btw?
Exactly what I was going to say.. I find it great, especially for running simple areas without slowing hexes (or loads of hexes in general). And it's mighty good for fighting undead since AoB makes your attacks will deal Holy Damage.

Anyway.

I hoped to se [Ravenous Gaze][Cleave] Yes I know it's decent but want it even better hehe...

Have some more in my head that I can't remember atm...
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51   #36
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And I would like to see more PBAoE's like Death Swarm. It's a pretty cool skill.
I'm pretty sure Deathly Swarm isn't point blank. :P
It's nice, but it's a shame it is let down by the fact it deals cold damage.
It's also a shame Vampiric Swarm has such a high energy cost and recharge.

I agree with [Ravenous Gaze] needing a buff. In its current form, it just promotes suicidal play.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #37
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spawning power needs a buff, its a terrible primary attribute. lol

also, bring back rit spirits! theres completly nerfed! they were fun to play, and great support.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45   #38
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I like the fact the elite people like the board warriors say Balthazar needs to be upgraded, yet all noob dervishes uses it.. Its probably the most used avatar.

So, PLEASE DONT buff it, if they do more people would use it.....and....no...noooooooooooooo!
They use it because they think it makes them look cool. This is honest, one time i asked a guy why doesnt he use something more useful like, lyssa, dwayna or melandru and he said "yeah, they would be better, but I'm not a girl." effectiveness vs looks :/
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56   #39
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Healing seed outclasses it as a monk skill because its non-elite.
Ahhh, but, healing seed does not stack with healing seed. Healing seed stacks with healing hands, and for the short duration when one of your tanks in steel wall actually needs healing before the enemy mob gets the living shit nuked out of them, I'd say it's worth it. Also casts a lot, LOT faster than healing seed, and lasts longer than seed of life.

Edit: Yes I think we are all aware that [Blessed Light] is a joke.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 04:21 AM // 04:21   #40
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Edit: Yes I think we are all aware that [Blessed Light] is a joke.
nu itz gud and a small buff will make it the new meta imo
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