Curse

DarkGanni · Aug 15, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Hello everyone, First of all I'd like to say this build DOESN'T aim for the fastest time but lets you clear FoW safe and at a decent time. Also a big thanks to my friend here known as A11Eur0 for helping me out put this build together and test it out.

x4 [build prof=Warrior/Dervish]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Asuran Scan][Eremite's Attack][Victorious Sweep][Pious Assault][Power Attack][Warrior's Endurance][Sunspear Rebirth Signet][/build]

Attributes:

12 + 1 + 1 Strength
12 Scythe Mastery

Usage:

Use I'm unstoppable for extra armor, prevention of crippling and knockdowns. Use Asura scan on foes to greatly increase your damage. Warrior's Endurance to maintain energy during battle. Pious' Assault main function is to apply deep wound which makes good pressure to enemies. Use the other 3 attacks for more damage.

1x [build prof=Warrior/Mesmer][Whirlwind Attack][Earth Shaker][Crushing Blow][Crude Swing]["For Great Justice!"]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Hex Eater Signet][Sunspear Rebirth Signet][/build]

Attributes

12 + 1 + 2 Hammer Mastery
11 + 1 Strength
8 Inspiration

Usage:

Use I'm unstoppable for extra armor, prevention of crippling and knockdowns. For great justice to build up adrenaline faster for your attacks. Earth Shaker causes PBAoE knockdown very good pressure against casters followed by crushing blow on the current target for deep wound and extra damage. Use Whirlwind attack with enemies around you for faster gain on adrenaline. Use crude swing for PBAoE damage. Use Hexeater Signet to remove hexes (specifically from the warriors when clumped together).

1x [build prof=Paragon/Warrior]["Go for the Eyes!"][Hexbreaker Aria][Anthem of Envy]["Save Yourselves!"][Spear of Fury]["There's Nothing to Fear!"][Focused Anger][Signet of Return][/build]

Attributes:

10 Spear Mastery
11 + 1 + 2 Command
10 + 1 Leadership

Usage:

Hit Focused Anger to gain adrenaline faster and keep up Save Yourselves, Go for the eyes (also part of your energy management), Hexbreaker aria (this will help the team stay free of hexes) and Anthem of envy to add more damage for your warriors. Use Spear of fury for an additional adren boost. Use There's nothing to fear to reduce damage from skills such as Spiteful Spirit and Empathy as the damage from these can't be reduced by adding extra armor.

1x [build prof=Necromancer/Monk][Order of Pain][Masochism][Blood Ritual][Great Dwarf Weapon][Signet of Lost Souls][Foul Feast][Remove Hex][Empathic Removal][/build]

Attributes:

12 + 1 + 2 Blood Magic
12 + 1 Soul Reaping

Usage:

Use Blood Ritual on the monk to give energy boost when necessary. Spam order of pain as this will boost up the damage done by the warriors. Use masochism as energy management for order of pain. Use Empathic Removal to keep team clean of hexes and conditions. Use Great dwarf weapon on the scythe warriors, it will give them extra damage and more pressure on enemies with knockdown. Signet of souls is used for energy management. Use Foul feast to remove conditions when present. Use Remove hex to remove the annoying hexes like Spiteful Spirit and Empathy.

1x [build prof=Monk/Elementalist][Dwayna's Kiss][Words of Comfort][Cure Hex][Healing Seed][Seed of Life][Heal Party][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Unyielding Aura][/build]

Attributes:

12 + 1 + 1 Healing Prayers
12 + 1 Divine Favor

Usage:

Use and maintain Unyielding Aura for the extra Healing to your spells, drop and recast when a party member dies. Use glyph of lesser energy to save energy when using large energy spells such as Heal party. Use Dwayna's Kiss and Words of comfort to heal party members. Cure Hex to heal and remove hexes from party members. Healing Seed and Seed of Life to keep your team up also helpful against long battles.

Questions and Answers:

Q. Why the warriors don't have an increased attack speed?
A. Consumables aren't very expensive Essence of Celerity gives 25% attack speed and 25% recharge on all skills, which allows me to put more skills on the warrior's bars.

Q. What Scythes should the warriors use?
A. The Warriors should use scythes dealing physical damage. My preferred one being Sundering as scythe has the highest base damage of all martial weapons and combined with the warrior's strength attribute can make some nice damage.

Q. How long does it take to finish with this build?
A. First time I used this build took me and my team 1hr 25mins to finish but I think it can be done in less than that. The better the players in the team are the faster you'll finish.

Warning before the trolls arrive in this thread: A similar build exists on PvX and I discovered that 1 day after I finished this so don't come here shouting PVX NOOB or other similar comments. Keep the thread clean please.

Well thats all I think, Comments and Suggestions welcome. Happy Hunting

~ Ganni ~

MercenaryKnight · Aug 15, 2008, 05:19 AM // 05:19

I am assuming, just about anything with a scythe could do. As well as switching one or 2 front liners for a splinter barrage or something. Earth shaker warrior should go /me since it uses no dervish skills. Put some inspiration magic and bring the hexeater signet instead of a res that does adjacent allies. Because the spiteful spirits will stack up and be a pain at times.

A/ds or d/xs with avatars and scythes might be a bit better (only because a constant mysticism bonus from the orders coming off all the time.

Seems good, unfortunately I don't have any characters that will have fun getting to do all the damage.

Just seems like with unyielding aura your wasting a pve slot on all of the wars. You can bring 1 or 2 res sigs but the rest of the pve skills could be a lot better. Vanguard wards, asuran scan etc.

Pleikki · Aug 15, 2008, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Nice Ganni, id be happy try this out with ya sometime, hehe our last Fow run was quite slow :P

Valkyria · Aug 15, 2008, 08:43 AM // 08:43

I see you added Earthshaker afterall. x)
But yeh,nice build. (I'm monking <3) =D

Nilo · Aug 15, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

well done Ganni :P

see you for more uw at september

Kaide · Aug 15, 2008, 10:47 AM // 10:47

nice, well done :P

Zidane Ortef · Aug 15, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01

I'm a big fan of the W/D It's one of the only builds I tend to run Godmode gets boring to all hell. But I a few nice minor changes that will your build be easy and efficient.

[build prof=Warrior/Dervish Template Code="OQoiExpMFUwc1cZU8WO6ZXoKCA" box desc="Strength 12+1+1{br}Scythe Master 12"][Wild Blow][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Protector's Strike][Asuran Scan][Aura of Holy Might][Warrior's Endurance][Drunken Master][/build]

1. [Wild Blow] there are a lot of somewhat pesky stances in FoW

Abyssal's carry [Berserker Stance]
Armored Cave Spiders carry [Melandru's Resilience]
Rock Borer Worms carry [Lightning Reflexes]

2. [Asuran Scan] with a decent Asuran rank its a warriors best friend now with no cast time and a quick recharge.

3. [Drunken Master] a massively long IAS with a good recharge and doesn't take much effort to use, also another skill that is a warriors best friend.

I've test many build along this line and so far this is my favorite and most efficient. Just as a side note beating things down with triple digit numbers is epic fun as well. Template code is up in the build for anyone who wishes to give it a whirl.

NOTE: Codes are not up to date so skills like [Asuran Scan] are not what they realy are take a look at http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page for proper descriptions.

XXL-FLEA · Aug 15, 2008, 11:05 AM // 11:05

I have a quick question, not being a wise ass but i am relativly new to GW and i just wanted to know why people use BIP over Well of Power? Which gives you both health and Energy at the same time? Is it because of the lack of bodies? Like i said i am new here and have never even been to the FOW i am just asking.

THANKS!!

I Will Heal You Ally · Aug 15, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57

put attributes?

Abedeus · Aug 15, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

Bodies can be used in a better way. But other than that:
1. BiP is extremely cheap. Health sacrifice can be healed by monk with 1 spell for 5 energy, which is very little thanks to +6 energy regeneration.
2. Can be used on demand.
3. Range of well will be usually in the frontline. Frontliners usually have excellent e-management (adrenaline/Mysticism/Critical Strikes) and don't need it, and direct healing > regeneration from Well. And casters NEED energy. There is no such thing as too much energy for a monk.
4. You don't need to have a corpse near you.
5. If corpse is near enemies, you risk breaking aggro.

Rothan Celt · Aug 15, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20

Can certainly work gg monkey lady.

Warriorsrmint · Aug 15, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

Well done, looks like it will work well.

TheodenKing · Aug 15, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

The new [Soldier's Fury] is better than [Focused Anger] for the imbagon. It gives him IAS and extra adrenaline, enough to manage SY easily. (They haven't updated the mouse-over description yet).

Also, if you are going to use 5 warriors, an alternative would be to have 3 of them bring [save yourselves], and replace the imbagon with whatever you want. (I like imbas, it's just an alternative). Notice only your hammer warrior is using his adrenaline. Another thought on that subject... with SY being up all the time, wouldn't derv primaries do more damage than warriors, and still have godly armor?

A note regarding [I Am Unstoppable!]: While [Save yourselves] is active, you don't get an armor benefit from [I am Unstoppable!], though the other benefits are still applied.

I love your Bip with Great Dwarf Weapon, and nice job putting UA in the monk build, that skill is godly now... good stuff.

If I was going to replace one of the scythe warriors, I was thinking of a Rit/Ran with [Splinter Weapon], [Edge of Extinction], and some protective/healing rit lord stuff. EoE will reduce your clear time immensely.

Loot Junkie · Aug 15, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

I will attest to the fact that this build owns face. During my short time with TAM we cleared fow a few times with this build in roughly 45 minutes (amirite on that time guys?) as a well focused guild group.

Here's a question: if the necro's elite was switched to OotV instead of BiP, with blood ritual used on the monk instead, would the end result be less healing pressure on the monk with no energy problems?

DarkGanni · Aug 15, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXL-FLEA

I have a quick question, not being a wise ass but i am relativly new to GW and i just wanted to know why people use BIP over Well of Power? Which gives you both health and Energy at the same time? Is it because of the lack of bodies? Like i said i am new here and have never even been to the FOW i am just asking.

THANKS!!

Hi, I chose BiP over Well of power Mainly because the warriors Have enough energy management with their elite and Bip offers more energy regen and allows the monk to move freely when he needs energy.

In Fow there's alot of bodies, the battlefield (skeletons area) is just a part of FoW, the rest of the areas have enough bodies for an entire army

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

Just seems like with unyielding aura your wasting a pve slot on all of the wars. You can bring 1 or 2 res sigs but the rest of the pve skills could be a lot better. Vanguard wards, asuran scan etc.

Yes, I know about that, personally I like to carry a ress skill on every team member, you never know what could happen. With the exception of the necro, it's the only one that doesn't carry ress.

Thanks for the tip on hex eater signet, I'll put it on the hammer warrior.

Yes, Other professions will work. I chose warrior because it's the one I have.

@ TheodenKing:

Of course lots of variations exist in this build. I know about the armor cap and that I'm unstoppable's armor bonus won't really make effect but you already pointed out why I chose that.

I like your Rit/Ran Idea will definitely try that out on the next run.

@ I Will Heal You Ally:

I was tired last night so didn't bother adding those aswell. They should be up soon however

EDIT: Added hexeater signet on the hammer warrior and Attributes for each player.

- Ganni

-Lotus- · Aug 15, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheodenKing

The new [Soldier's Fury] is better than [Focused Anger] for the imbagon. It gives him IAS and extra adrenaline, enough to manage SY easily. (They haven't updated the mouse-over description yet).

I disagree. the double adrenaline from Focused Anger with the IAS from Aggressive refrain keeps SY up much more comfortably. When i tried Soldier's Fury there was a big problem keeping a shout/chant up on myself, most of them end on an attack or skill.

zling · Aug 15, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Lotus-

I disagree. the double adrenaline from Focused Anger with the IAS from Aggressive refrain keeps SY up much more comfortably. When i tried Soldier's Fury there was a big problem keeping a shout/chant up on myself, most of them end on an attack or skill.

there are plenty of shouts/chants that dont end on usage of attack/skill...
depends which route your Imbagon takes, here are some options:
Fall Back, Shields Up, Watch Yourselves(not that effective cause of SY but works on you), GftE, you can find many more but these are just a few examples...

Marverick · Aug 15, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

A/D is better than W/D anyday. D/x would probably be the best in this team though due to orders providing a steady flow of energy.

["They're On Fire!"] can be kept on constantly. TNtF can be chained with 2 Paragons.

However unless you have a 6s SY!, I don't think 133% adrenaline gain is enough to keep it up.

JONO51 · Aug 15, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

There seems to be quite a few additional adren stuff on the imba, so maybe swap a scythe warrior for a DSlasher, but with the [[Hexbreaker Aria] and [[Anthem of Envy]. attribs around 12+1+1 sword, 8+1 strength and 10 command. You'd still get nice damage and the Imba would be able to get out a bit more SY. Also, the DSlasher would probably be able to pump out more of the aria and anthem of envy.

intimidator89 · Aug 15, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Yea I've had alot of fun with W/D with the new buff to Warrriors Endurance. (beats Obie tank for sure). Nicely done.