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monk of the godss · May 09, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

I didnt know where abouts to put this on the pvp forum parts so i put it here.

I dont care what profession, just what is the quickest way to get balthazar faction, i know zaishen elite> but im looking for areas that dont have a balthazar faction gain cap, like it stops at 2-3k faction.

Thanks for your help.

MisterB · May 09, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Zaishen Elite, 16 consecutive, flawless rounds=6K, and it takes ~15 minutes. After that, try something that's slower.

*Darcy* · May 09, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Wiki says Zaishen Elite caps at 2k per 24 hours.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Balthazar_faction

If that is wrong, someone needs to fix the wiki.

payne · May 09, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

Wiki says Zaishen Elite caps at 2k per 24 hours.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Balthazar_faction

you missed a bit..if you get consecutive wins in ZE - you can get up to 6k faction ^^

also RA is a laugh for balth faction lol as most ppl suck and its easy kills ;P

MisterB · May 09, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

Wiki says Zaishen Elite caps at 2k per 24 hours.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Balthazar_faction

If that is wrong, someone needs to fix the wiki.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaishen_Elite_(mission)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Wars Wiki

You can earn up to 6,000 faction per day from the Zaishen Elite.

ogre_jd · May 09, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Alliance Battles are also quite good for Balthazar Faction, I've found, and also a fair bit more fun than the torture that is the Random Arena...

Targuil · May 09, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Play gvg and HA, those are good sources. Arenas are decent.

matsif · May 09, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

RA is good if you don't suck and get on a team that doesnt suck terribly.
AB is also a good source cause of 10 points every time your team kills something (I think...correct if wrong)
you can solo zaishen challenge for 2000 points and then do elite for another 4000 points

so getting 10k a day isnt that hard if you wanted too

ccruzp · May 10, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Anyone have good builds for heros to bring to elite zaichen? the 3xfiremesmers + 1 monk is kinda ok, i usually do 2 mel d/w w/ wildblow , a N/rt healer/splinter a Rt/R splinter/healer/frozen soil. but when i get a real high number of trappers and cant kill then before mel wears out they usually break my winning chain and i have to do it in 2 or 3 trips.

MisterB · May 10, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

If you're talking about the PvXWiki Zaishen team of Me/E Nukers, that build is crap. Take a trapper with [[Frozen Soil] and 3 SH or SF Ele heroes. Blow them to pieces. [[Winnowing], [[Brambles], and [[Edge of Extinction] are nice, too. Make one(or more) of the heroes E/R to bring them if you want. Put a copy of [[Frozen Soil] on one of your heroes; the Obsidian Flamers always target spirits first, so as long as you have one spirit out, they'll never touch you, and with FS, they can't res.

Wnx Mreslayer · May 10, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

For Zaishen Elite today I done 1 trapper, 2 ele flame spikes, 1 monk... 15minutes to get 6k faction. very good indeed.

dreadlord369 · May 11, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

I say all trappers and one ele to finish the job is fastest in my opinion

novawhiz · May 12, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

if its z-keys you want dont bother with getting faction

you can do anything in pve farming or runing and make more z-keys than with faction

Even Hfff will get you 3-4 keys an hours

MisterB · May 12, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

if its z-keys you want dont bother with getting faction

you can do anything in pve farming or runing and make more z-keys than with faction

Even Hfff will get you 3-4 keys an hours

Check your math. If you can farm 3-4 keys/hour in gold, let's say 20K, then you get one Z-key every 15 minutes. Zaishen Elite can also be done in that amount of time, and the rate of return is guaranteed. They are the same, if you are only concerned about zaishen keys.

masta_yoda · May 12, 2008, 07:28 AM // 07:28

ha is the fastest for factions long run

PyrAnkh · May 12, 2008, 10:45 AM // 10:45

HA is indeed the fastest way. If you play gvg and win quick flawless games (on smurf guilds for example) you can get faction pretty fast as well.

canto · May 13, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadlord369

I say all trappers and one ele to finish the job is fastest in my opinion

And that extra ele is me

.

I do 2k at zaishen challenge.
-use troll-farming build
- get all war team at de' allessio

Then I'll go to Elite and find or make a trap team. FROZEN SOIL is important.

I use a pvp ele, so my inferno does 150 and my dd does 232. Just give urself as much pvp wep energy as u can, and rune up. I got 300 hp but 133 energy.

Risus · May 13, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Raptors HM (E/A or A/E) solo's all but trappers, LOL
but
This solo's most Zaishen Teams:
[build prof=ranger/any wilderness=12+3+1 expertise=12+3 beast=3][Quickening Zephyr][Trapper's Speed][Spike Trap][Flame Trap][Barbed Trap][Viper's Nest][Whirling Defense][Troll Unguent][/build]

If you bring a few heros with this and micro their traps in your base area, it is UBER easy. [skill]Frozen Soil[/skill] helps a lot too.

novawhiz · May 14, 2008, 12:19 PM // 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

Check your math. If you can farm 3-4 keys/hour in gold, let's say 20K, then you get one Z-key every 15 minutes. Zaishen Elite can also be done in that amount of time, and the rate of return is guaranteed. They are the same, if you are only concerned about zaishen keys.

no... they are far from the same...You can get a key in the same time period, but you can only get 1 key every 24 hours with zaishen(8 a week). You can get as many keys as you want by hfff, there is no cap.

Skinny Corpse · May 14, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by novawhiz

no... they are far from the same...You can get a key in the same time period, but you can only get 1 key every 24 hours with zaishen(8 a week). You can get as many keys as you want by hfff, there is no cap.

Excuse a noobish, off topic question but what is hfff?