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Old Jan 23, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47   #21
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[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]
LOL WTF?

Try playing anything else than pve? It's a very viable skill in arenas.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51   #22
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LOL WTF?

Try playing anything else than pve? It's a very viable skill in arenas.
I hope my sarcasm detector is broken, but I'm gonna act like it isn't.

It's bad because:

You need to completely spec into another attribute (a somewhat subpar one at that) to get the most out of it. It also only lasts once. It's also a waste of an elite for a monk when there are much better ones such as Zealous Benediction, Word of Healing, Divert Hexes, Restore Condition, etc. A much more effective, non-elite version can be found under Protection Prayers: [skill]Aura of Stability[/skill].

If it's so viable, why do no monks run it?
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57   #23
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As most of you are posting elite skills:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10008331
Already a thread about that.
My non-elite worst ones:
[skill]Burst of Aggression[/skill] useless imo, need buff
[skill]Signet of Strength[/skill] same
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 08:07 AM // 08:07   #24
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 08:17 AM // 08:17   #25
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You need to completely spec into another attribute
No you don't, few leftover point's is enough if you know what you're doin.

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It's also a waste of an elite for a monk when there are much better ones
Never said it's the best elite, I said it's viable and that's true.

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A much more effective, non-elite version can be found under Protection Prayers: [skill]Aura of Stability[/skill].
I suggest you read the skill descryption again....

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If it's so viable, why do no monks run it?
They do... I've seen it in action and it just stops many builds based on knockdowns.

I never used it myself cause I prefer ZB but It is a good skill, and it's fun to see shove war knock himself down.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 08:33 AM // 08:33   #26
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They do... I've seen it in action and it just stops many builds based on knockdowns.
Was it 1vs1?
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35   #27
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It was TA, which is crowded with stupid gimmicks like mentioned shoveway.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 11:39 AM // 11:39   #28
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Theres nothing wrong with stopping 33% of the healing imo. I totally agree with you Peace and Harmony however. I'd have to say [skill]wastrel's Collapse[/skill] is probably up there as well. I dont see a whole lot of use for it. Certainly not enough fo it to be an elite.
it's a quick snare that works on runners, but it doesn't have any use outside of AB, since even monks who kite stop to cast a quick prot. spell before five seconds.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47   #29
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PnH is weak, however the idea is fine. There are just better skills available
BP isn't that bad, most of the time you would prefer an healing/prot elite, however the fact that it can stop spikes with such low investment is worth noting.

Would say Archer's Signet is bad. Concept is bad, you need alot of expertise to make it worthwhile, however with high expertise you can already spam your skills, while being a bit thoughtful on spamming the elite. However that slot is already taken.

and of course Augury of death is bad, if it wasn't abused by something it wasn't meant for
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58   #30
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 01:12 PM // 13:12   #31
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26   #32
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[skill=text]Barbed Arrows[/skill]
Barbed Arrows isn't bad. It's not great but it definitely doesn't sit near the bottom of the rubbish pile.

[skill]protective bond[/skill]

This is a bad skill. I don't know how it can be used effectively in any situation, including farming.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54   #33
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Barbed Arrows isn't bad. It's not great but it definitely doesn't sit near the bottom of the rubbish pile.
Its inferior in almost everyway to AP and it should basically never be used ever. Unless your running 2 Rangers running similar builds, one with AP one with BA, why you would want to, I don't know but hey.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55   #34
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Its inferior in almost everyway to AP and it should basically never be used ever. Unless your running 2 Rangers running similar builds, one with AP one with BA, why you would want to, I don't know but hey.
poison arrows+ Barbed is viable

barely
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26   #35
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32   #36
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[skill]Orison of Healing[/skill]
wut? it's gud with [skill]Warrior's Endurance[/skill] I neve dye
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #37
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poison arrows+ Barbed is viable

barely
Yes and on that note im adding [skill=text]Poison Arrow[/skill] to mine.
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56   #38
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Strictly speaking, I think skills that are completely useless to every build imaginable (e.g. [skill]Protective Bond[/skill]) are inferior to skills that are completely useless except if you're running a significantly subpar build (e.g. [skill]Archer's Signet[/skill] with [skill]Concussion Shot[/skill], instead of [skill]Prepared Shot[/skill].)
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13   #39
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Strictly speaking, I think skills that are completely useless to every build imaginable (e.g. [skill]Protective Bond[/skill]) are inferior to skills that are completely useless except if you're running a significantly subpar build (e.g. [skill]Archer's Signet[/skill] with [skill]Concussion Shot[/skill], instead of [skill]Prepared Shot[/skill].)
[skill]Archer's Signet[/skill] + [skill]Concussion Shot[/skill]>you
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13   #40
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Swirling aura. When i eventually found out it existed i had to read it a few times thinking i missed somthing. xD

I mean come on, it only blokcs projectiles, it costs 10 energy, it lasts less than half the cool down. 100% shatter bait.

Oh and [skill]Marksman's Wager[/skill] > [skill]Archer's Signet[/skill] =D
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