Curse

spirit of defeat · Jan 23, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Ill add the RT line:
[skill]Lamentation[/skill] The recharge is to long and the dmg is weak
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill] not worth a elite
[skill]Armor of Unfeeling[/skill] A waste of slot when playing spammer

ensoriki · Jan 23, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Archer's signet the worst skill?
Archers can't even compare to [card]Expert's Dexterity[/card]
which means it can't compete for the worst skill.

Cherng Butter · Jan 24, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Archer's signet the worst skill?
Archers can't even compare to [card]Expert's Dexterity[/card]
which means it can't compete for the worst skill.

Don't people use this to spam attack/interrupts?

ensoriki · Jan 24, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

Im not calling experts the worst skill.

Im saying its worse than Archers which means Archer's can't be the worst skill.

Also... what interrupts are people spamming new ? expertise can't cancel the cost of this out.your always be paying stuff like 10 or something energy per attack do to this skill.

Wakka · Jan 24, 2008, 09:25 AM // 09:25

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Don't people use this to spam attack/interrupts?

No, no they dont. The only interrupt that would really synergise with it would be Savage Shot but it would cost an insane amount of energy every shot and therefore would not be spammable. Oh and Concussion Shot, but good luck with that.

Washi · Jan 24, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24

It could be worth it to use it with other weapons, like scythe. You could spam eremites and mystic, dunno if it would work, just a thought.

distilledwill · Jan 24, 2008, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by Washi

It could be worth it to use it with other weapons, like scythe. You could spam eremites and mystic, dunno if it would work, just a thought.

Ive tried that very tactic and it works pretty well, as long as you manage your energy well (take Zealous Sweep or something) you can pump out a fair bit of damage with a decent IAS.

The Meth · Jan 24, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17

[skill]Expert's Dexterity[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]

Being able to make nearly every bow shot you make interrupt and disable for 20 seconds isnt too bad, and it only costs about 4 or 5 energy total still. I can think of worse elites. If the prep didn't kill the rest of your bar it would be very good I bet.
Now anyone who can find a use for one of these gets a cookie from me.
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]

Scourgey · Jan 24, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by The Meth

Now anyone who can find a use for one of these gets a cookie from me.
[skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]

Oh please, these skills have their uses.

Balthazar's Pendulum is a good skill to use with smiters boon build, because it is one of the few skills there that are cheap + relatively fast recharging, not so much because of it's actual skill, but the synergy of healing. It also serves as a cheap cover enchant. An example usable build is:

Reversal of Damage
Divine Intervention || Watchful healing
Smite Hex
Smite Condition
Judge's intervention
Balthazar's pendulum [Elite]
Smiters Boon
Contemplation of purity

Clamor of souls is begging to be used with a minion master in PvE, sure you won't want to have the minion master build on the ritualist.

"Help Me!" however doesn't have much of a use in random play, in a very heavy orientated buff build it could be useful so your support players don't spend so long casting spells so are less suspectible to interruptions. I think it needs a buff so you don't need to spend as many points into it to get 100% coverage.

I'm not saying these skills deserve much praise though, there are better combinations.

The only completely useless skill that has no role that I can think of is protective bond. It used to have a role in farming not anymore.

DeBron · Jan 24, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Wakka

Yes and on that note im adding [skill=text]Poison Arrow[/skill] to mine.

Barbed+Poison Arrow allows for quick multitarget degen, unlike AP+BA. Neither skill deserves to be mentioned in a "worst skill" thread.

N1ghtstalker · Jan 24, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

the pendelum can be used in arena's against hammer warriors considering most warriors are hammer with either earth shaker of backbreaker
but still i prefer WoH in an arena
worst skill = ursan
it's useless
it's stupid
it's overated
i can't believe DoA went to hell just cuz everyone uses ursan now >_<

Avarre · Jan 24, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by ax mastery

[skill]Archer's Signet[/skill] + [skill]Concussion Shot[/skill]>you

Using your elite for the same role as your primary attribute in that way is probably the worst thing you can do to yourself.

azzer20 · Jan 24, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I'll add a mesmer skill

Tease.

Brian Fellow · Jan 24, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Even with a minion master Clamor of Soul still sux b/c it only strikes a foe once. You can easily use Ancestor's Rage for basically the same effect without wasting an elite

Wakka · Jan 24, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by DeBron

Barbed+Poison Arrow allows for quick multitarget degen, unlike AP+BA. Neither skill deserves to be mentioned in a "worst skill" thread.

Yes its greatness is displayed with the amount of Ranger's seen running it

Not to say that a skill be used much to be good, but Bleeding is only good for one thing and thats a cover condition.

Brian Fellow · Jan 24, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Iron Mist is just terrible. Especially when a certain NPC casts it and makes your entire party useless in dmg

Scourgey · Jan 24, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

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Originally Posted by Brian Fellow

Even with a minion master Clamor of Soul still sux b/c it only strikes a foe once. You can easily use Ancestor's Rage for basically the same effect without wasting an elite

Ancestor's rage has a much smaller range. Clamor of souls has "nearby range". I'm not saying I consider it elite worthy, but this is about the worst skill, and Clamor of souls clearly imo is not the worst skill.

ax mastery · Jan 25, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Using your elite for the same role as your primary attribute in that way is probably the worst thing you can do to yourself.

Its not as bad as you are suggesting, I ran it in a byob gvg one time, and it was hilarious. It's a 21 second daze, 5 recharge skill which only has one drawback (13ish energy per shot). AS lets you spam it on recharge.

I'm not saying its really good, but it is hilariously funny, and not terrible either. My favorite byob build by far.

Wakka · Jan 25, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01

Daze is badddd in GvG.

distilledwill · Jan 25, 2008, 11:35 AM // 11:35

I have to say, I think one of the worst is:
Supportive Spirit: For 5...19 seconds, whenever target ally takes damage while knocked down, that ally is healed for 5...29 Health.
Everytime i look at it i just think:
"Wait.. what? why?"