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Crippie its Tom · May 21, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

to start i'd go E/me, and then swich to necromancer later on in the game when you get nicer spells to compliment your elementalistyness. Earlygame however E/Me has to take the cake.

Cosmic Error · May 21, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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Originally Posted by IMANOOB

water magic? lol, but water magic is not really good at dishing out damage. with what sort of skill should i pair it up with? i kinda like fire skill since i can dish out a lot of pain. As for e/me, i've heard if you have the archon whatsisname something you're able to repeat some destructive ele skill, causing untold damage to critters. so i figger this'd be good for PvP. To date, i havent seen any good e/necs that can fight players well.

Water magic not dealing damage?
[Shatterstone]
Don't make me laugh. Anyway, the myriad of cold damage spells you have combine well with things like [shivers of dread] and [spinal shivers]. That's not really the best combo out there, but it works. Since many water skills are hexes, you can use [soul barbs] to deal extra damage when casting stuff like [deep freeze].

Axel Zinfandel · May 22, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

[Cry of the Banshee;AWJwwMTmA4isgIDLBKB2giOA]
+4 on energy storage :P

E/Me :P

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blue.rellik · May 22, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Error

Water magic not dealing damage?
[Shatterstone]
Don't make me laugh. Anyway, the myriad of cold damage spells you have combine well with things like [shivers of dread] and [spinal shivers]. That's not really the best combo out there, but it works. Since many water skills are hexes, you can use [soul barbs] to deal extra damage when casting stuff like [deep freeze].

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Cebe · May 22, 2008, 10:05 AM // 10:05

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Originally Posted by mystical nessAL

You don't seem to know what you are talking about. It is true eles deals lower dmg against warriors and such, but they still deal more damage alone than warriors. warriors have massive dmg, but lost of their aoe damage are a little weak, doesn't deal over 30+, ele's can wipe an entire group. Go play GW again

The only way Elementalists can appear to deal more damage than warriors is because they can stack AoE better (so you see more numbers), and for PvE, it's all about the AoE. If you hit the HCT mods on a weapon you can pump out a couple of high-damage AoEs very quickly and descimate a mob quite quick. On the other hand, if you have a human Rit (or anyone capable of casting Splinter Weapon) and Warrior in your party, or are willing to micro the use of certain skills on those heroes, it is possible to achieve better results. This does rely on having the warrior make sure that the foes surround him, rather than run off to the backline, to ensure that Splinter Weapon is triggered as much as possible.

Let's not forget here that warriors can also be buffed by orders from Necromancers, and also chants from Paragons, which further increases their damage output. Spell damage from Elementalists can't really be increased outside of using Ebon Battle Standard of Honor or forcing the attributes up with Glyph of Elemental Power and the like.

It can be difficult to understand why and how a Warrior can do a "wtfpwnz" level of damage unless you've played one (properly), especially if you primarily play Ele who maybe only takes a Warrior hero or hench now and then. Warrior AI really don't use attack skills as often as they can, or at the right time, so you get a very distorted view of the class. Warriors synergise very well with Necromancers, Ritualists and Paragons to cause a great deal of mayhem. Let's also not forget that +damage from skills, and the damage from Splinter Weapon is all untyped, which means it ignores armor, which definitely gives them the "edge" in higher level areas.

Elementalists are very adept at party support and condition spamming however. They can easily power skills from other professions as well as dealing an acceptable amount of damage at the same time (see: Mind Blast builds). Don't forget to also take into account cast times. A lot of Ele spells have cast times of 2-3 seconds for some of the more powerful AoE spells. In that time, a warrior has bashed his foe in the face several times and has generated enough adrenaline to lay down a nice spike.

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Originally Posted by IMANOOB

duh... that means e/necro is pretty much useless since they dont do anything, is it?

[Enfeebling Blood][Stoning][Glowstone]

Party Support, Damage, Knockdown, E-Management all in 3 skills. /win.

la_cabra_de_vida · May 22, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

You could do both, eprod is still good for something :P

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[build prof=Elementalist/Necromancer][Ether Prodigy][Faintheartedness][Reckless Haste][Price of Failure][Insidious Parasite][Suffering][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Resurrection Signet][/build]