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Azure mist · May 25, 2009, 06:34 AM // 06:34

I recently did a vanquish that I found Muchh better than the triple nec build.

1 Mo/Me
WoH, vigorous spirit, healing seed, patient spirit, Cure Hex, Power Drain, Drain enchantment.

1 A/R (Me)
Critical agility, crit eye, WotM, Barrage, way of perfection, Ebvgas, ebvgSoH, Dshot

N/Rt
Ss,FF, PSending, splinter weapon, spirit rift, Death pact signet, sufferinng, SoLs

The last Hero Can Be Anything! It will work regardless, some ideas for you people, E/Mo Sh, guardian, aegis etc.
N/Mo prot Mm
Roj with support party divine heals
Swap A/R for R/ barrage
OoV :]

So basically with your barrage you are spitting out 90+ dmg every enemy you hit :]. Vigorous + WoP is healing you for up to 160hp every shot

So basically your monk doesn't even have to heal you.

People just run with this build and you'll love it, mid it even

Vigorous + WoP barrage= Umaway

it's amazing

drunknzelda · May 25, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44

There's no way this is better than triple necro, cause the point of triple necro is the heroes having full energy after each fight and them being ready for another without having to regen, plus the fact they have armor-ignoring skills (Discord and Putrid Bile for Discordway, SS and Splinter Weap for Sabway, I know you run SS and Splinter too, but throw in a MM and it's just a basic sabway tbh), plus both of them run minions making it easier for your party to survive and utilizing even more damage through death nova. Why not make that monk a Necro/Monk so you can abuse the wonders of soul reaping? And oh, I would just run crit scythe instead of barrage, much more damage ^^

Azure mist · May 25, 2009, 07:05 AM // 07:05

You can do that but having the crit barrage hitting 6 targets for 90dmg + dmg from splinter.. While hitting that crazy high dmg you are healing yourself from 150hp makes a deadly combo

Seung · May 25, 2009, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Gave it a run, its not to bad, but I still would use triple nec over it.

Capulatio · May 25, 2009, 07:48 AM // 07:48

I will always use Sabway over this, you have the right idea though.

The Player should always be a damage dealer, I used to go Crit Barrage, but now use Crit Scythe as I like hitting 250+ Damage

. I have to say I tried the Two Man Necroway and that beats it all :P Its basically Sabway and Discordway mixed with extra healing.

upier · May 25, 2009, 08:57 AM // 08:57

Or you could run your average MB build with warrior secondary for SY!
+100 armour for the insanely dumb h/h is beyond godly!

dasmitchies · May 25, 2009, 08:57 AM // 08:57

Heck with Discordway my sin is relegated to caster. AP YMLAD! YAAW EVAS and WnWn some extra mes interrupts for lolz. After every fight there is at least 3 Ebon Vanguard assassins moping around looking for something to kill. Sometimes i just aggro a huge frikkin mob and go outside to smoke. Come back in, and walla! drops. The evil truth is someone could invent a hero group named failway and beat Hard Mode with underpowered horrid skills. The AI just sucks that bad. Been noticing all the Pve skill buffs? Anet's lame attempt to buff their pve mobs.

JONO51 · May 25, 2009, 09:18 AM // 09:18

why not take out the ss and monk, then add an order of the vamp nec with vig spirit and another crit barrage? wouldnt that work a lot more effectively.

AznAndy · May 25, 2009, 09:47 AM // 09:47

no offence man, bt i still rather choose to use Sabway/Discordway over this. But its nice anyway

distilledwill · May 25, 2009, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Running a bow on a sin when you could use daggers and the new [[strength of honor] is a bit of waste. Try [golden fox strike][golden fang strike][death blossom][mobius strike]["Save Yourselves!"][Critical Agility][asuran scan][critical eye] and you'll never look back.

In terms of the heroes, they look pretty solid.

legacyofkain85 · May 25, 2009, 10:20 AM // 10:20

this is just a 2 necro+1 monk hero build,remove the monk and add a necro and u get a triple necro team.So imo it is not better,if it works better for is another thing.

Marverick · May 25, 2009, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azure mist

You can do that but having the crit barrage hitting 6 targets for 90dmg + dmg from splinter.. While hitting that crazy high dmg you are healing yourself from 150hp makes a deadly combo

If only every mob clumped up nicely for Barrage to hit 6 targets every time...

This will work in a few areas where mobs do indeed clump (Charr, Stone Summit), but it's not a general build like 3x Discord is.

drunknzelda · May 27, 2009, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Discord > Sab btw, I got my legendary guardian with sab a while back but recently switched to Discord as it lets you insta-kill any threat in a mob, whereas Sab won't let you do that ^^

The Riven · May 27, 2009, 04:39 PM // 16:39

For so many reasons it makes my head hurt... IFyou have to take H/H then SABS or Discord are good enough for most areas.

For most other areas, i wont give build or mathematically work it out, its all been done by better players than myself right here in these forums, but just take another real player and adapt heroes to suit the area.

snaek · May 27, 2009, 04:51 PM // 16:51

backline heroes are a waste of a team slot imo

like you said, [vigorous spirit] covers enough heals that your monk doesn' t need to heal you... so why not just put [vigorous spirit] on a midline that also deals dmg and have it done with?

AtomicMew · Jun 04, 2009, 04:02 AM // 04:02

Wait a minute, isn't this basically just triple necro except with a monk instead of n/rt healer?

tenetke · Jun 04, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasmitchies

Heck with Discordway my sin is relegated to caster. AP YMLAD! YAAW EVAS and WnWn some extra mes interrupts for lolz. After every fight there is at least 3 Ebon Vanguard assassins moping around looking for something to kill. Sometimes i just aggro a huge frikkin mob and go outside to smoke. Come back in, and walla! drops. The evil truth is someone could invent a hero group named failway and beat Hard Mode with underpowered horrid skills. The AI just sucks that bad. Been noticing all the Pve skill buffs? Anet's lame attempt to buff their pve mobs.

Did someone call the cry babies out to play. Go QQ somewhere else.

As for the group, it works o.k. but not overly great. Using it in places where enchant striping is present kills the killing. Contrary to the above idiotic statement the AI doesn't always just hang around in one big group waiting for you to blast them with a pumped up barrage.

When I go into areas that sabway or discord is just not going to work I will try looking at really unique setups. This one looks like it would be cool in narrow areas where you can hold mobs at a choke point allowing barrage/splinter/other aoe to work it's magic. In large environments its just not as fast. That isn't anything against the setup, it is simply how it is designed. Sabway works good as kind of a middle ground, discord works good at taking out one target at a time. This is more aoe group nuking, and for that it works good.

laksa and curry · Jun 18, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Triple necro builds are just the most versitile, most talked about and most commonly used (till the extend of being abused). There are so many other hero combinations that can hold their own. There are so many "self proclaimed" pros who uses the 3 necro heros without fully exploring the prowess of the other heros. Ther fact that one uses only 3 ro 5 heros for grinding shows how little u know about the game.

*Disclaimer, I am not implying that 3 necros suck. We are know that they rock but I wish there were more people around who fiddle with heros from ALL profession.

AtomicMew · Jun 18, 2009, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by laksa and curry

Triple necro builds are just the most versitile, most talked about and most commonly used (till the extend of being abused). There are so many other hero combinations that can hold their own. There are so many "self proclaimed" pros who uses the 3 necro heros without fully exploring the prowess of the other heros. Ther fact that one uses only 3 ro 5 heros for grinding shows how little u know about the game.

*Disclaimer, I am not implying that 3 necros suck. We are know that they rock but I wish there were more people around who fiddle with heros from ALL profession.

There are rather few builds that heroes run decently. (I'd even be inclined to say that they are meta) . Necros are at the front of the line of course. There are some decent mesmer builds, there's ROJ for monk and also some healing builds for tougher areas, divert for DoA. There's paragons which some people swear by. There's the BHA ranger, there's the orders Derv.

I may be missing some, but there's honestly no other build I can ever really see myself using. Sins are almost universally not used. Melee heroes are just not that good due to bad AI. Eles are subpar to mesmers and necros.

However, if you have a few non-meta hero builds that are not completely outclassed, by all means,please share.