Curse

Kerwyn Nasilan · Nov 20, 2009, 04:34 PM // 16:34

So for anyone who has beaten Dhuum (assume NM) and would like to help some more newbish players when it comes to UW I think we could all appriciate some help. I am not really looking for you to take time writing up an 8 man team and full guide, but which skills, tactics, and things to look out for are useful in UW would probably be immensely helpful. Assume this is a "balanced" team that would more or less take any profession in, what would we want to bring.?

Black Metal · Nov 20, 2009, 04:57 PM // 16:57

I'd like some groups to form of fairly skilled and experienced players, because pugging is horrible. I for one am up, can run any class any build, with a little direction I'm excellent to have.

Lishy · Nov 20, 2009, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Can Dhuum be knocked down?

Short · Nov 20, 2009, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Can Dhuum be knocked down?

Probably not, but with Earthbind, anything can be knocked down.

Nihilim Dhiamara · Nov 20, 2009, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Black Metal

I'd like some groups to form of fairly skilled and experienced players, because pugging is horrible. I for one am up, can run any class any build, with a little direction I'm excellent to have.

same for me (no paragon or ele), and I know the normal uw quests ^^.

If running balanced try to do the 4h quest first, if you can make that one, u can almost do any quests if you know what to do

Eragon Zarroc · Nov 20, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48

"Can't Touch This" to help prevent Dhuum from spreading rampant DP amongst ur party members. although if everyone has their own surce of DP removal items, wouldnt be needed.

jiggles · Nov 20, 2009, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Bring prot spirit and hex removal.

MagmaRed · Nov 20, 2009, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Inspired/Revealed Hex would be the best hex removal for facing Dhuum. His hex is a monster skill that can't be stolen, so it would recharge immediately, and with moderate attribute investment can be a nice energy management skill.

Another Felldspar · Nov 20, 2009, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Is it better to just "die" and come back as the spirit form? Is that form more effective for dealing with Dhuum than the player skill bars are?

edit: Is it even possible to fail the battle with Dhuum since if you reach 60% DP you are sent to the mayor who sends you back to the battle? What happens if you reach 0 health as spirit form? What happens if all of the Reapers die?

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Short · Nov 20, 2009, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

"Can't Touch This" to help prevent Dhuum from spreading rampant DP amongst ur party members. although if everyone has their own surce of DP removal items, wouldnt be needed.

He has no touch skills. Touch of Dhuum is a spell.

Chthon · Nov 20, 2009, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

"Can't Touch This" to help prevent Dhuum from spreading rampant DP amongst ur party members. although if everyone has their own surce of DP removal items, wouldnt be needed.

According to wiki, Can't Touch This causes the touch to fail, but not recharge; it can be reused instantly. Considering Touch of Dhuum has no energy cost, Can't Touch This does nothing more than delay him touching you for a moment.

Estic · Nov 20, 2009, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Do heroes return as ghosts when they hit -60% DP?

Wheel of time · Nov 20, 2009, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by Ayelet Feldspar

What happens if you reach 0 health as spirit form?

You stay dead

ALL I SAY FROM NOW ON MAY ONELY BE TRUE FOR NM OR MY SPECIAL CASE

as for the reapers, they usually (well I have done onely one "balanced" run) dont get aggro and should regenerate the aoe dmg.

I ran an ER infuse/prott/lifebond and dhuums dmg is, if you pay attention, more or less easily doable. however, the fact, that i talked about spirits staying dead i failed some times. Usually when he forgot to remove his DP, and i forgot PS. As for the hex, its laughable i really dont see why to bring special skills to remove it.
Unfortunately we had lots of armordepending dmg, therefore dhuum took years, even about 5 minutes after the red bar was up,
ah and for the, No-rezz-allowed part, when activating ua before entering you can rezz dead spirits^^.

To summarize i dont think that doom is really that hard, 4h is way harder

By the way, did that run with pugs

Shayne Hawke · Nov 20, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Arguing about how to fight Dhuum seems silly when you can just kill yourself and be given a bar specifically geared for fighting against him.

Arduin · Nov 21, 2009, 12:50 AM // 00:50

So...what if you all get -60 dp on Hardmode and get turned into a spirit? You get kicked from the UW?

Joe Fierce · Nov 21, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Arguing about how to fight Dhuum seems silly when you can just kill yourself and be given a bar specifically geared for fighting against him.

No, because aside form skill one,t he bar sucks, and you'll die quickly, and once you die as a ghost, it's for good.

HigherMinion · Nov 21, 2009, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by Wheel of time

You stay dead

ALL I SAY FROM NOW ON MAY ONELY BE TRUE FOR NM OR MY SPECIAL CASE

as for the reapers, they usually (well I have done onely one "balanced" run) dont get aggro and should regenerate the aoe dmg.

I ran an ER infuse/prott/lifebond and dhuums dmg is, if you pay attention, more or less easily doable. however, the fact, that i talked about spirits staying dead i failed some times. Usually when he forgot to remove his DP, and i forgot PS. As for the hex, its laughable i really dont see why to bring special skills to remove it.
Unfortunately we had lots of armordepending dmg, therefore dhuum took years, even about 5 minutes after the red bar was up,
ah and for the, No-rezz-allowed part, when activating ua before entering you can rezz dead spirits^^.

To summarize i dont think that doom is really that hard, 4h is way harder

By the way, did that run with pugs

Wait... You ran ER prot and people still died in Dhuum's area? You must be doing something wrong. What exact build are you running?

Xenomortis · Nov 21, 2009, 10:18 AM // 10:18

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Originally Posted by HigherMinion

Wait... You ran ER prot and people still died in Dhuum's area? You must be doing something wrong. What exact build are you running?

Remember, we never got a chance to find out how much damage Dhuum can actually churn out.

It might be quite painful.

Chthon · Nov 21, 2009, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Remember, we never got a chance to find out how much damage Dhuum can actually churn out.

It might be quite painful.

I doubt that. He's only got 2 skills that can't be totally dealt with by Protective Spirit/Bond or Shelter: the touch and the hex. But both only do 100 damage to a single target. Nothing too hard to heal through.

The only real challenge is the DP from the touch skill. He managed to touch me 3 times in the 2 or 3 minutes it took for us to kill him. Had the fight dragged on, that skill could have become a problem.

So, here's my tips:

1. Bring builds that can keep Protective Spirit/Bond or Shelter up.

2. Frontliners need to bring a handful of DP removal consumables.

(There's one other tip, but it's almost cheating...)

P_A_A · Nov 21, 2009, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Whats the other tip? Blocking him on gate? Something with shadowstepping maybe?