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Tyla · Dec 05, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by daze

Which is why i just decided to stop responding to the posts. People have a tendency to disagree just for the sake of disagreeing. Then they do so in a way to where it is just insulting enough to draw the party into a 3 page tangent over an issue that provides ZERO assistance to the OP, but not insulting enough to be an obvious blatant troll. I am not naming any names but these

"sneaky Trolls"

have to word their posts just right to where it offers their rebuttal with a hint of condescending tone.

I disagree with what I believe is inferior to alternatives and wrong. However, disagreeing for the sake of it is funny either way. The thing here is that I have a point which you argue against with major futility in your arguments. I'm still failing to see when Ether Nightmare was better than other alternatives.

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For instance, The [assassins promise][cry of pain] build is a perfectly fine and capable build. Its attributes are only spread through 3 lines to make for maximum potency in the skills (deadly arts, fast casting and inspiration).[[channeling], [[ether signet], and [[assassins promise] is all you need for e-management (and yes, [[channeling] is effective for a midliner, i have found it very effective) There is nothing wrong with using 2 hexes to prime [[cry of pain] and [[ether nightmare] and [[mind wrack] are great choices because one has a long duration with fast recharge while the other is a strong AoE spell that doesn't need any attributes to fuel. Will the build work anywhere? Yes it will. Would other people flame it just because someone might have a different opinion? Answer not necessary.

"Fine and capable" can be anything in PvE. "Best you can get" should be the priorities. Also, if you have Ether Signet you lack the requirement of Channeling anyway. You finding Channeling effective in PvE must mean that Mending is effective in PvE too, by the way.

Also, no flames here. Just for fun, would you like to point it out or are you just making false statements without a blink of evidence towards that claim? Are you just soft-skinned?

Either way, I'm not going to stop posting. This is just funny.

Bobby2 · Dec 05, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by daze

For instance, The [assassins promise][cry of pain] build is a perfectly fine and capable build.

It also happens to be the pinnacle of what any PvE Mes could aspire to. It simply doesn't get any better than this. More Cry; the only advantage they have over Necro's.

Would I take it over a MoP Nuker? No. But that's a different story, so don't QQ

Desert Rose · Dec 06, 2008, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by daze

you may want to re-read the description for [[channeling]. In case you missed it, you dont have to be standing "next" to the enemy as you say. When it says "enemies in the area" it means in your aggro bubble.

I wonder why noone mention this.
Shout range is nearly the same as aggro bubble, but "in the area" is only about ~1/3 of your aggro bubble.

-Lotus- · Dec 06, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Desert Rose

I wonder why noone mention this.
Shout range is nearly the same as aggro bubble, but "in the area" is only about ~1/3 of your aggro bubble.

perhaps because channeling has been a viable source of energy management since prophecies?

Desert Rose · Dec 06, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

perhaps because channeling has been a viable source of energy management since prophecies?

Sorry, i dont see the connection between our posts.
I just pointed out that the sentence "When it says "enemies in the area" it means in your aggro bubble." is wrong.

Div · Dec 06, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by Tyla

There's more than one definition of kiting?

I kite by standing next to 2 enemy warriors and 2 enemy rangers like an idiot while yelling at my monks to heal/prot me if I ever get attacked. Then I proceed to call them bad that they can't keep my 60 armor ass up standing in the middle of 4 big damage dealers.

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Originally Posted by daze

When it says "enemies in the area" it means in your aggro bubble.

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Originally Posted by daze

(8...46 seconds.) You gain 1 Energy for each foe in the area whenever you cast a spell.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Range
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:RadarRanges.jpg

Just curious, but do you ever click the links that you post? Bringing what desert rose said into context: in case you're colorblind/dumb/can't read figures, the white area represents your aggro bubble, while the little purple circle that's slightly bigger than the red circle is your channeling range. The radius is about a third of the aggro bubble, and the area that it covers is about 10-15% that of the aggro bubble (which I determined using a top secret formula that only the brightest of people know--the area of the circle).

daze · Dec 07, 2008, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

I kite by standing next to 2 enemy warriors and 2 enemy rangers like an idiot while yelling at my monks to heal/prot me if I ever get attacked. Then I proceed to call them bad that they can't keep my 60 armor ass up standing in the middle of 4 big damage dealers.

Funny,

Ive seen people who kite by just mashing the <S> key until they are behind the healers (not effective)

Ive seen people who kite by just strafing out of the aggro range (little more effective, but still not very)

Ive seen people who kite by dancing in circles <Q><S><E><W>(a bit more effective)

Ive seen people who kite by strafing in a circular motion around the mob staying in the circumference of the mob. (this method works but you better have some self heals because you will leave the reach of the healers.)

I personally kite by trying to find a body block or meat shield (minions) to screen the enemy and i may throw in a [[you move like a dwarf] (most effective method of kiting IMHO) but thats only if i am taking more melee than i can withstand. If its just one warrior on my tail, ill probably stand there and spike him down.

see how there are different methods of kiting? but still only one definition?

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

I kite by standing next to 2 enemy warriors and 2 enemy rangers like an idiot while yelling at my monks to heal/prot me if I ever get attacked. Then I proceed to call them bad that they can't keep my 60 armor ass up standing in the middle of 4 big damage dealers.

Just curious, but do you ever click the links that you post? Bringing what desert rose said into context: in case you're colorblind/dumb/can't read figures, the white area represents your aggro bubble, while the little purple circle that's slightly bigger than the red circle is your channeling range. The radius is about a third of the aggro bubble, and the area that it covers is about 10-15% that of the aggro bubble (which I determined using a top secret formula that only the brightest of people know--the area of the circle).

My bad, i dont know why i originally posted aggro bubble. i have always know that in the area means the same range as a ward spell. I dont know what i was thinking when i said aggro bubble. But still my point remains that in the area definitely is not the same as adjacent to.

And honestly soft skinned really has nothing to do with it. Im probably the least soft skinned person out of everybody i know. But regardless, I just grow tired of arguing the exact same point for 3 pages on a thread that is supposed to provide help to the OP. Semantics is not something i like to get into a quarrel over and it seems that Tyla is the master of semantics. The only reason i believe this is because ive seen other threads where he is arguing about stuff that really has no impact one way or the other. the term "Knit pick" comes to mind.

We have been arguing the same points just worded differently each time and i would like to go ahead and concede all my points just to save the brain damage.

Now i am happy to answer any question and dont worry about offending me because its hard to take offense from someone i done even personally know. But i also try not to give credence to people who come at me with disrespectful undertones. In other words, i just wont waste my time.

Avarre · Dec 09, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Can you people stop posting stupid comments and maybe understand what you're posting about before posting please.

Discussions over irrelevant stuff don't help.