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Permanently Banned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northern Ireland
Guild: Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide]
Profession: N/
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Worst Elite =Flesh Golem
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Oct 17, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: wisc
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Oct 17, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway
Profession: R/
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So you can't apply blind, daze, weakness or DW, just the four most powerful conditions. You can't carry specific henchmen that provide conditions.
Wow now that's gotta be a good elite. Especially when you have the other OP stuff you listed. Btw you can't use 4 PvE skills at a time. |
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Oct 18, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: wisc
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dervs are op'd as is, you dont need all that other stuff. and i didnt say use all 4 at once. i gave options.
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Oct 18, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44
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Emo Goth Italics
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Vow of Strength is horrible. Wounding Strike, Avatar of Lyssa, even (and this elite is pretty junky compared to Victorious Sweep because it doesn't need an elite slot and is only about 9 damage lower) Reapers' Sweep. You can't use any conditions that elevate the amount of deaths at all.
Just because "it's PvE" doesn't mean "it's good" or "it's bad", the effects and usage of the skill determines that factor. |
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Oct 18, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2008
Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP]
Profession: Me/Rt
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Warrior - Decapitate.
Ranger - Lacerate. At least Archer's Signet allows you to do damage. Lacerate adds 4 dps per second CONDITIONALLY. Monk - Peace and Harmony/Withdraw Hexes. Flip a coin. Necro - Signet of Suffering. Mesmer - Symbols of Inspiration. Elementalist - Energy Boon. Assassin - Wastrel's Collapse. Ritualist - Clamor of Souls. Paragon - "It's just a flesh wound." Dervish - Vow of Strength. |
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Oct 18, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: lfg atm... >.>
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W - Primal Rage or Hundred Blades (can see more use with Primal Rage though lol...)
R - Quick Shot or Quicksand (also lacerate isnt bad, it just sucks in PvE, and only abused in over hex/condtional builds in PvP) Mo - Peace and Harmony, Withdraw Hexes, Amity, Word of Censure (your pick, all suck tremendously) Me - Symbols of Inspiration or Air of Disenchantment N - Signet of Suffering E - Stone Sheath A - Wastrel's Collapse or Mark of Insecurity Rt - Signet of Spirits, Signet of Ghostly Might or Spirit Channeling D - Avatar of Grenth or Onslaught P - Angelic Bond or Incoming imo of course... >.> |
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Oct 18, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2008
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War - Primal Rage
Ele - Energy Boon Nec - Flesh Golem (non-elite minions do more damage) Monk - HB (not that the skill is that bad, but it encourages the worst builds) Mes - wouldn't know... Ranger - Archer's Signet (it defeats the point of expertise... yet its an expertise skill) Rit - Signet of Spirits Derv - Avatar of Grenth Para - "The Power Is Yours!" Sin - Seeping Wound |
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Oct 18, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: The District Nudists
Profession: R/
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Warrior: Rage of the Ntouka
Ranger: Practiced Stance Monk: Peace and Harmony Necromancer: Cultist's Fervor Mesmer: Symbols of Inspiration Elementalist: Double Dragon Assassin: Wastrel's Collapse Ritualist: Signet of Ghostly Might Dervish: Vow of Silence Paragon: Crippling Anthem |
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Oct 19, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12
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Academy Page
Join Date: Oct 2008
Guild: Mercanaries of Xero
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Okay, I know archer's Signet is bad, but, worse than Equinox? I mean, what the hell is even the point of Equinox? I can't think of anywhere in the game where you'd run into enough Elementalists to justify using it. Plus, relatively few useful Ele skills cause Exhaustion. I mean, there's Maelstrom and Shock, and that's about it.
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Oct 19, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Equinox's point is to be used with an arcane echoed arcane languor. http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arcane_Languor
But 2 elites to event be functional isn't that great. |
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Oct 19, 2008, 12:39 AM // 00:39
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Academy Page
Join Date: Oct 2008
Guild: Mercanaries of Xero
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Oct 19, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Oct 2008
Profession: Mo/
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im going to mention non-elite skills that are useless here because another thread was closed because of this one even though the other thread was of NON - Elite skills. here i go for Monk, Rit, Sin classes... (based mainly on classes i use) Monk DIVINE F Divine Intervention - watchful intervention clearly clearly kicks this skills rear Release Enchantments - slightly more health benefit plz (PvP) Smiters Boon - WTF happened to that skill! 25 energy 90 sec recharge for an enchant that lasts 5 seconds... hmmm am i missing something? Spell Shield - just no one uses it. cbs going in detail. Watchful spirit - i know i wouldn't use this mid match HEAL Supportive Spirit - for how much health it heals, and for execution condition, 10 energy cost i believe is too high. Words of comfort - may be good in some cases, but is bad when theres deep wound. id rather use a condition removal spell. PROT Convert hexes - too circumstantial for its energy cost. But can be real good if circumstances are met. Shield guardian - health gain needs to be increased. i know a way to spam this skill constantly without energy loss and yet i believe you'll achieve more with orison of healing. or change functionality to something like... "For 5 secs target other ally has 75% chance of blocking. That ally is healed for 18...38 health whenever they block" SMITE Balthazars Aura - who uses it? but i could be wrong... Banish - meh ... maybe there should be a pvp version of this spell (more damage). Judges Intervention - too risky Reversal of Damage - "For 8 secs, next time enemy hits you, they are damaged for that amount instead and you are healed for double that. (max 5...40)" Symbol of Wrath - either just cast time to 1, or lessen recharge slightly. Ritualist CHANNEL Agony - useless all round with the exception of using it in RA. dies to quickly otherwise. (PvP)Ancestors rage - revert to 1/4 cast at least Lamentation - wow .. conditional with 20 sec recharge for 63 dmg?!? maybe make it 1/4 cast or something. COMMUNE Anguished was Lingwah - only good for start of a match Ghostly Weapon - how many times do you want to spam a skill like this? a redundant skill imo when there are more effective substitutes. Dulled Weapon - was this skill mainly made to counter assassins?!?! "Hex Spell. For 10 secs, target foe does 4...12 less damage when using attack skills and cannot achieve critical hits." RESTORE Ghost mirror Light - Just because i believe its the shittest spell in the restoration category. Assassin CRIT Malicious Strike - i find is only good for wounding strike sin. alterations needed. Sharpen Daggers - Change back to "when achieve critical hit target for suffers from bleeding". make it a skill that's meant more for assassins. my dulled weapon sounds like its good against something now :P DAGGER MASTERY Desperate Strike - increase the conditional aspect "If you have less than 60...80% Health, you deal +15...48 damage" that way you don't need the highest dagger mastery out there. Horns of the Ox - swap damage output with Trampling Ox's dmg output. Repeating Strike - useless DEADLY Lift Enchantment - needs something else with it... Vampiric Assault - this belongs in dagger mastery imo. A suggestion for the War elite 'Hundred Blades': "Skill. For 8 secs, whenever you successfully hit, you hit twice" Last edited by NeroX; Oct 19, 2008 at 08:06 AM // 08:06.. |
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Oct 20, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2008
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either my troll senses are tingling or my bad player senses are tingling.
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Oct 21, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: Knights of the White Eye [HINA]
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Warrior: Soldier's Stance/Skull Crack
Ranger: All the elite Nature Rituals Monk: Peace and Harmony/ Amity/ Mark of Protection (it's like an RoF that completely sucks...) Necromancer: Signet of Suffering/Wither/Icy Veins Mesmer: Tease Elementalist: Second Wind Assasin: Seeping Wound Ritualist: Preservation Paragon: "Incoming!"/Soldier's Fury/"The Power is Yours!" Dervish: Most of them. Hell, even among the avatars only Balthazar is useful in PVE (Melandru would be, but 25e is way too expensive to use with Eternal Aura)... |
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Oct 21, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Florida, USA
Guild: Sacred Storm [Strm]
Profession: N/
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I'll not be popping off skills for classes that I've not played/have little experience in.
Paragon, Mesmer, Warrior, Dervish and for the most part Ranger. Though, Quickshot is pretty bad. Necromancer: It's sort of a toss-up. Weaken Knees and Cultist's Fervor. Monk: Glimmer of Light. Elementalist: Second Wind. Assassin: Wastrel's Collapse and Shadow Meld are both pretty up there for the Crap award. :/ Ritualist: Preservation. |
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Oct 21, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: E/
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shadow meld? You know how it is abused in the Hero battles?
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Oct 21, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20
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Zookeeper
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader
Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#
Profession: N/E
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Oct 21, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22
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Academy Page
Join Date: Oct 2008
Guild: Mercanaries of Xero
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Wow, funny, man. Seriously, though, Avatar of Lyssa's one of the top 3 PvE Dervish Elites; the other two being Wounding Strike and Arcane Zeal (Orders Dervish). You can include Vow of Silence, to, if you think running actually counts as a form of playing Guild Wars. :P Oh, and Avatar of Balthazar is crap. Everything it does can be replicated with non-elites. |
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Oct 22, 2008, 04:32 AM // 04:32
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2008
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