Curse

SotiCoto · Aug 21, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by The Mancer Man

Okay, done it again and timed - takes about 35-40 minutes with no issues!
That's with two trappers and heroes.

Not saying it's the best way but it works.

IGn
Shadow Ghol

Care to go into details?

Avengey and I just took a shot at it....

We got about as far as the Coldfire Nights outside the Village (behind the Terrorwebs).... and things just got really messy there (it was all clear-running up to that area, then first the Grasps killed Avengey and his hero... leaving me and mine to deal with them... then just trying to get past the Terrorwebs without aggroing anything became the major issue).

Admittedly.... we were trying to run 5 "trappers"... one of which (me) was an Assassin and hardly suited to the task at hand.... and my Jin was on Res-duty, so not much better.
If we were to do it your way, I could swap places with Margrid in theory.... doing the attacking myself and assigning Margrid the task of echo-trapping.

What precisely do you trap and what do you use the Heroes for?

[We're going to have another try at it tomorrow... same time.... and hope to get more real, human trapper help. I'm personally considering, if we get a few human trappers, just going on emergency resurrect-duty myself (Shadow Form, charge in, Rebirth, A few Prot spells, Shadow-Step out).]

I REPEAT: WE ARE GATHERING AGAIN TOMORROW FOR ANOTHER SHOT AT GETTING THE SPIDEYS, AND MORE TRAPPER HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
APPROX TIME: 2pm PST or 10pm GMT

The Mancer Man · Aug 21, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Hi SotiCoto

The method I use is (hope this makes sense)

2 rangers - real people - with the traps - dust is a must - one ranger takes the necessary spirits - Wiki - has the builds needed

3 heroes each - 2 monks for healing, 2 nukers, and 1 warrior and 1 bonder total 6 heroes. This setup works for us. Flag heroes in corner on avoid combat.

Trap all the bulls, then clear the chamber of graspings and proceed to the terrorwebs. Clear all the monsters - again we trap - so that the 3 terrorwebs are left. We now unflag heroes to assist killing the terrorwebs - makes it quicker! Once done collect reward but take NO quest!!!!!!!!

Proceed to Vale - flag heroes near the reaper until needed - remember take no quest!

On to the Vale - trapping the bulls, graspings. Eventually you come to a bridge with a group of 6 grapsings positioned on the other side - don't aggro and kill leave them alone - repeat do not kill this group!!!! Slip past them and kill the second group of graspings and the third group of grasping near the shrine.

Once that is done you need to trap 2 groups of coldfires - one group at a time of course. They are the two groups that walk behind the shrine! Watch their patrol path and lay traps in their route. It can be done!

When they are dead go back - yes back to the first reaper - and take the quest - remember to not aggro the group of graspings near the bridge - they would have by now moved a little closer to the village - you can still slip past them! Bring your heroes with you on passive mode.

When you return you will now see 3 terrorwebs in front of the shrine. Use heroes - its quicker - and kill them. Once gone take the quest and the tortured souls will pop up - finish them off with your heroes and the spider will spawn back at the shrine for you to cap.

Probably wish to know why not to aggro that group of 6 grasping by the bridge? If you don't aggro them then its a guaranteed way of not losing all villages when the tortured souls pop up and try to kill them. If they, your green npc's, haven't popped up then they can't be killed!!!!!

Hope this makes sense and I've not confused you! Feel free to ask for clarification! Like I said it probably aint the best method but it works!

T1Cybernetic · Aug 22, 2007, 12:02 AM // 00:02

Im after a dire spider for my ranger too

If i get a chance i will come on and lend a hand until everyone is happy!

silent but true · Aug 22, 2007, 12:10 AM // 00:10

slightly off topic but can any1 help me cap hearty spider for my ranger on sunday/maybe saturday gmt london time?

When I helped some1 cap spider we used a bonder, 1 SS (me) and a trapper if htat helps.

The Mancer Man · Aug 22, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Just remember!!!!

The spider evolution that spawns is completley random - hearty, dire, elder

T1Cybernetic · Aug 22, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mancer Man

Just remember!!!!

The spider evolution that spawns is completley random - hearty, dire, elder

Dont i know it

this has been my problem all along, i've done about 5 runs and not managed to get a dire spider yet.

/Praying for a dire!

I Might Avenge U · Aug 22, 2007, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Hey guys, I just wanted to say, I won't be getting on for a week or so... I will however be on guru (I think) so if you manage to get a method down please share!

The Mancer Man · Aug 22, 2007, 03:07 AM // 03:07

But I have shared a method...

SotiCoto · Aug 22, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Mancer...

Seems to me like we practically got to the right place, but we did the method a bit wrong.
We managed to trap-kill the first group of Terrorwebs... but we ended up taking the quest too early and spawned the Terrorwebs by the statue.... which caused all the trouble.

Plus of course we killed all the Grasps, including whichever bridge group you refer to.

For the record.... what is the importance of the spirits? Why do they need not to be killed?

CHANGE OF PLAN FOR THE MEETING. IF POSSIBLE, WE MEET 2 HOURS EARLIER AT 8pm GMT. LOCATION = ZIN KU CORRIDOR, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT 1.
Hopefully a team effort will be able to get us all spiders. I will personally settle for Elder OR Dire...
Be warned though..... it might take a lot of cash and / or scrolls...
Friends-list me beforehand for added convenience:
IGN = Hyun Chae Soon (yes, my Assassin).
WE CAN MEET AGAIN ON SATURDAY IF NECESSARY.

The Mancer Man · Aug 22, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Hi SotiCoto

When you enter the Vale and kill the graspings green NPC's appear - for each group of graspings killed. Now if you don't kill the graspings by the bridge then a group of green NPC's wont appear which simply means they can't be killed when the red tortured souls finally appear - so all u have to do is kill all the tortured souls to cap your spider even if all the green NPC's have been killed coz u have a group not killed coz they haven't appeared. If u lost ALL NPC's then you fail!

Sounds like u went real close - just got the quest when u shoudn't have

SotiCoto · Aug 22, 2007, 10:20 AM // 10:20

Alright.

I'm starting to get it now...

So are the Grasps that I'm NOT supposed to kill the ones immediately outside the village (around the corner from the mayor)?

The Mancer Man · Aug 22, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31

The group of graspings that you Don't kill are the ones closest to the bridge!

SotiCoto · Aug 22, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41

What bridge?

I don't even remember seeing a bridge....
Was it before the village?

Bruce Leeroy · Aug 22, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Just kill all the graspings. Bring a bonder, throw Life Barrier on 2 or 3 of them and they wont die while you wipe out the bad spirits.

The Mancer Man · Aug 22, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Yep, its a stone bridge you cross as you enter the Vale.

Bucephalus · Aug 22, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

I captured this little lot when the access to the UW was free.

I run two accounts at the same time and so use two sets of heroes.

What I found was that each time I went to capture a spider the evolution, say, startd at Elder for about three visits, then Hearty for about three, then Dire for about three.

This happened more often than not for it to be a coincidence.

I quite often got bored though and went after the spider in the Icy Wastes to relieve the monotony.

I Might Avenge U · Aug 22, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Holy crap...

Mind sharing your strategy.

@ Mancer Man: Cool, we gotta try that strategy... Like I said before I'll be awhile before I'm able to give it another go, and hopefully by then me and SotiCoto's Ranger will be all ready to trap and whatnot.

It might be awhile before I can play long enough to try and get a widow.. So for the time being, The next time we go to UW should be set for maybe Next weekend (not this weekend, next one). School starts up soon for me, so I also have other things to do. So soon I will be able to play well once everything has settled down. But for the time being, I'm be out of commission...

SotiCoto · Aug 23, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

A shame really.

My Ranger has now got to the "Closer to the stars" quest... so she'll be Weh No Su by tomorrow, and quite possibly to Zin Ku Corridor as well. Give it an entire week (which I have off work) and she will have finished Factions... on both sides of the faction divide.

In any case though... nobody showed up yesterday.

I'm still planning to hold a meeting THIS weekend, but I'm just not very good at organising it.

WOULD ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CATCH BLACK WIDOWS OR HELP WITH THE CATCHING THEREOF PLEASE FRIENDSLIST ME AND CONTACT ME IN GAME! USE ANY OF THE IGNs LISTED TO THE LEFT OF THIS POST!

I Might Avenge U · Aug 23, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

The Earliest I can play is maybe this monday. If I actually get to play, I don't Know. It's more like, I'll be near my laptop, and If I'm not doing anything I'll jump on for a couple of hours...