Curse

The Defiled Knight · Jul 09, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

Hey guys lately i've been saving for some new armor so i've started doing alot of FoW farming (In groups with my mates) well anyway I quickly went through all threads and came up with a build that is for pure tanking that serves me pretty well but it doesn't work if i don't have a decent group and that is most of the time the build that I use is....

Attributes:
Scythe Mastery: 9 + 3
Earth Prayers: 11 + 1
Mysticism: 10 + 2

Skills:
Conviction
Mystic Regeneration
Vital Boon
Mystic Vigor
Faithful Intervention
Fleeting Stability
Avatar of Balthazar
Eternal Aura

So that's what I've been using (kinda terrible and basic) and I know it needs some improvement. So if anyone has some tips or ideas of how I can improve my build so I can continue playing in FoW.

Constructive critisism please not pure critisism lol.

~ Dan ~ · Jul 09, 2007, 11:56 AM // 11:56

Improvement: stop tanking.

WarKaster · Jul 09, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Improvement: stop tanking.

gj not reading the post......

Yeah there was another FoW build that used Mystic Sweep instead of Fleeting Stability to add a little punch to AoB while fighting the Undead Hordes. if you look in the builds thread im sure its in there. KD was a minor problem from the Abysalls but a decent group made short work of them. Also since the new update...Conviction and the armor from AoB do not stack anymore you might want to think of throwing an attack in that skill slot instead.

The Defiled Knight · Jul 10, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47

Ok Dan how about you extand on your remark a lil bit and tell what I should do to earn some cash if i'm not meant to tank in FoW telling me not to tank doesn't really help.

Mystic sweep is a good idea though possibly swap out conviction for it? Thanks anyway I have some ideas for what I can do to change it now I just gotta test it out.

Anymore input owuld be greatly appreciated.

~ Dan ~ · Jul 10, 2007, 07:56 AM // 07:56

i earn my money by solo fow...

yes i read the post, and laughed, the only 2 places for a tank are: DoA and The Deep. thats it imo. if your doing fow, be useful, cmon they're lvl24s and you have monks. wth is wrong with your party if they can't kite and survive that?

EDIT: btw, my friend and i cleared fow using our heroes (k so they're better than your average pug, oh well). what was my derv doing? killing things! try it sometime

Xethrion · Jul 10, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Solo it. Ditch your friends, go alone, keep all the shards you earn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykvoi4oCnR0

Build and attribs is in the link. Use a 20% enchant weapon (obviously), and bring a longbow or flatbow to lure.

And why everybody is telling you not to tank, is that with melee being one of the strongest forms of pure damage out there, using a pure tank build is just wasting all that offensive power.

You only need 2-4 defensive skills at most, and not a whole bar full of them. That's just a waste, as you could've slotted in scythe skills instead to kill stuff faster. Kill stuff faster = the run goes faster.

For crying out loud, it's FoW. If your monks absolutely NEED you to tank in order to stop the party from dying, then they're doing something wrong, as FoW is one of the easiest elite areas to play.

The Defiled Knight · Jul 10, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

Yeah you guys are probably right, btw before i bother trying to solo it you got a link to a thread that does have a solid guide for it?

Xethrion · Jul 10, 2007, 11:12 AM // 11:12

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10138637

Different build, but shows you the basic concepts behind using the dervish build as it only differs by 2 skills.

Basically, you're subbing out Phys Resist and Channeling for Conviction and Balthazar's Spirit, for the same purposes of armour and energy gain respectively.

Watch the video, it takes you through the beach area, showing how to kill every single thing on the beach.

When fighting Skales, you'll need to renew Mystic Regen or Mystic Vigor during the fight, but you can't do that while VoS is up. VoS however, is the only thing stopping them from hexing/stripping/Grenth's Balancing you, so what you do is when one of the above enchants expires, wait for VoS to start blinking, then start spamming the key of the enchant you want to re-cast. As soon as you see it cast, immediately hit your VoS key. Pretty simple really.

The key to the beach area is patience really, as if you rush in, the overlapping patrols will get you killed. Just proceed slowly, and kill every single thing in your way, and you should be fine. Work on speed only after you've mastered the run.

Not much to be said for spiders. Lure in groups of 3 at a time, you can't really handle more, try to bunch em up so your scythe can hit as many as possible.

Driftwoods and Dryders are dead easy, check out the video for that.

The Defiled Knight · Jul 10, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

Thanks a heap i'll be sure to try this out sometime soon I have all the skills so i'll probably make the build now and try it in 20 or so.

The Defiled Knight · Jul 13, 2007, 06:43 AM // 06:43

Ok started with 20k and did 20 solo FoW runs and I finished with........

5.673k

Now was that a waste or WHAT?!?!?!?!

blue.rellik · Jul 13, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Defiled Knight

Ok started with 20k and did 20 solo FoW runs and I finished with........

5.673k

Now was that a waste or WHAT?!?!?!?!

That's just bad luck, sometimes you can make over twice that in one run easily

The Defiled Knight · Jul 13, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30

yeah i don't think i'll bother with the soloing anymore it was real boring and after wasting 20k it seems real pointless.

boarderx · Jul 13, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41

take out conviction, you alrdy have armor from the avatar, and with the armor stacking nerf you might as well add rebirth or an encht remover or an interrupt.

thats what i use to tank with in fow to (give or take a lil bit)

~ Dan ~ · Jul 13, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Defiled Knight

yeah i don't think i'll bother with the soloing anymore it was real boring and after wasting 20k it seems real pointless.

pffft, i've made 1mil + gold from solo beach runs.

a waste of time? no

even if you get to the end with no shards, you make back that 1k.. clear to me you died early every single time to lose 20k.

The Defiled Knight · Jul 14, 2007, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Nah mate I completed every run completely Beach and Spider caves I even did all the Ancient Skale without dying and didn't make even 700gp back every run you musta just been lucky or something cause I got jack all.

I'll probably use my last 5k on doing some more solo runs today and see I can atleast make a slight improvement on my other runs.

Xethrion · Jul 14, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Pick up and sell everything, not just shards. White items = gold. If you do that, you make an easy 3k, of which, 1k goes to pay for your entrance fee.

Don't see how you can possibly get only 700gp back unless you rely only on shards and money drops. Laziness is bad, just pick up and sell everything.

The Defiled Knight · Jul 14, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Do you think i'm an idiot or something I did pick up everything.

The Defiled Knight · Jul 19, 2007, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Ok heres another question then, you guys say going solo earns cash easiley well.... is their anyway at all to solo the shadow army or even the skeletal army? If you can't solo then can you just do it with two people?

And if there is no way to either solo or do it with two people is there any profession that can?

The Defiled Knight · Jul 23, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Bump still need to know if there is anyway i can kill shadow army

~ Dan ~ · Jul 25, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

you can't solo the shadow army, as they're skills are too varied. prob the same with skeletons.

i don't know any dual builds (if any), because i solo so there's no need finding out

sorry.