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Old Sep 02, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52   #1
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Default Glint's Challenge with 2 humans/6 heroes

Any suggestions on how to do it? We cant get past wave 2... I am seeing some really nice builds around here, but they are focused on burning, and I hear that destroyers are immune to burning correct?

Anyways, I have a ranger and my brother has an elementalist. What should we do with our heroes to beat this? So far we have been trying:

Me - Splinter Barrager
Ogden - prot monk
Sousoke(sp) - spams different wards/interrupts
Whispers - MM

Brother - Air Spiker
Jora - tank
Ogden - heal monk
Vekk - Fire AoE

Any tips?
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Old Sep 02, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33   #2
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Bring one MM on each side and don't use a fire ele, the rest really doesn't matter all that much. I've been completing this with just H/H and pugs using a lot of different builds so it's not all that difficult. The main problem is those scythe destroyers that obliterate your minions, a curse necro using Reckless Haste/Enfeebling Blood can help against those.

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Old Sep 02, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #3
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2 MMs on each side? As in both of us take 2 MM or we just need 2 MM? Know of a good hero MM build? I cant seem to find one, and I dont think my build is cutting it.
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Old Sep 02, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #4
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Sorry, I meant one MM on each side of course.
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Old Sep 02, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47   #5
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Alright, thanks, any suggestions on a MM build?
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Old Sep 03, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16   #6
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Their was an old dual mm build. Both heroes use aotl (E) to maintain being able to sacrifice and heal up their armies.

Aura of the lich, bone fiend, bone horror, blood of the master, (mantra that reduces recharge of signets), leech signet, sols, power drain.
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Old Sep 03, 2007, 12:46 AM // 00:46   #7
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I am a fan of the ward of weariness too. Weakness to all monsters who run through it is very nice. Also you might want a restore conditions elite since their is a group with all those broad head arrow rangers. A dedicated mesmer interrupter might work since a lot of them are casters.

I went in with myself as an ineptitude mesmer. A necromancer (person would be best) as said above would do good for price of failure/ reckless haste and Spiteful Spirit.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38   #8
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MMs suck.... there minions die in a single swipe from the destoryers of compassion. If they survive that they die from barrage. Why does everyone insist that MMs are so good for this mission?
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45   #9
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Well because minions take some of the fire off your main heroes and instead puts it on minions. Even if they die quickly, taking a couple hundred damage off the party is pretty good imo.

A ranger hero with broad head arrow would probably be a great idea for the caster bosses/ the ele pop ups around dragon that attack it during some of the waves.

SS I believe would still be a great assett but dunno if a hero can manage it that great.

Maybe someone will come up with a really great fast build for it, but until then a lot of different builds are capable of winning. Guess were all just hoping to find the best optimal build like people doing doa/ mallyx/ whatever high end with the fastest times and stuff.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01   #10
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My brother and I have been doing this misson quite a bit. We both set up our respective heroes so we could act as 2 independent teams...(well almost)

We both had an Air Ele each, with Blinding Flash or Blinding Surge and Epidemic.
We both had a Minion Master
We both had a Monk (my brother plays monk himdels, he went Protection, whilst I took an LoD Flunkoro on my side)
We both had an Earth Ele with Ward against Melee, Eruption, Dragon's Stomp.

Most of the really harsh destroyers tend to be physical damage dealers. Blind makes them pathetic. The second wave I think is always the worst. The Destroyer of Deeds are nasty things which like not to die, although can't really do anything when they're blind

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suck.... there minions die in a single swipe from the destoryers of compassion. If they survive that they die from barrage. Why does everyone insist that MMs are so good for this mission?
Because, like you already said yourself, they take the enemy fire away from the players. Also, if I'm keeping everything nice and blind, they tend to stay alive.

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Their was an old dual mm build. Both heroes use aotl (E) to maintain being able to sacrifice and heal up their armies.
That's the important bit.

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Old Sep 04, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35   #11
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I think it'd almost be better to have maybe 1 mm and 1 ss or death nova necro. I figure all melee minions + having a dedicated necro to cast death novas and stuff adds a lot of extra damage could be a good combination. Perhaps add Jagged Bones Elite too.
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Old Sep 05, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39   #12
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I did it solo with this team :

Me : necro : arcane echo + SS, insidious paraside, necrosis, signet of lost souls, ...
Norgu : domination backfire, empathy, wastrels worry power spike ...
Olias : MM
Pierce Fireshot : apply poison, BHA, distracting shot, needling shot, throw dirt, trolls
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06   #13
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I did it solo as well using the following:

Me (Ele with Unsteady ground and wards)
Master of Whispers (Set up as SS)
Olias (Jagged Bones MM with Death Nova)
Razah (Weapon of Remedy Rit with Mend body/Spirit Light and Bloodsong/Ancestors to round it up)
Prot and Heal Hench
Earth Hench
Warrior Hench

It goes pretty smooth. The only hairy parts are Wave 2 with those annoying destroyers of compassion coupled with the rangers and Wave 5 where those destroyer of lives pop up. But wards makes this a lot easier.

I only fight the first wave near the gates. From Wave 2 onwards, I camp near the baby dragon.

The destroyers of compassion do make short work of the minions but thats the beauty of it; all of those minions have death nova on them courtesy Olias. And when they die, due to JB, you get more minions. Poison and bleeding r*pes the destroyers.

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Old Sep 08, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28   #14
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Easy solo

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Old Sep 08, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18   #15
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16   #16
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I beat it with the group shown here:



Livia was running a Virulence MM, Vekk was an Invoke Lighting / Blinder, Zhed ran wards, and the henchies were... henchies.

We had no deaths or major problems. It's just a matter of being patient and watchful.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40   #17
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did u camp in one spot? or run either side when they came?
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Old Sep 10, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41   #18
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Of the various ways I've completed it with just herohench so far on my warrior (and I love to experiment with different comobs), I found that a 3 monk build felt the easiest, in that it had the largest margin for error -- things just never felt hairy.

I used the two hench monks, plus a hero Light of Deliverance hero monk (making for a total of 2 LoDs). I had a MM and a SS necro (pretty standard, though, I think most people use these), in addition to the Earth and Illusion henches. This works well, because even if your party's overall damage output is lower with 3 monks rather than 2, the SS and MM will cause everything to die due to attrition eventually, so it's really just a matter of surviving.

I felt I should compensate with a little more damage from my warrior (when I was running 2 monks, he was a W/E with ward vs melee to help out on defense). So this time around I put on conjure frost, with whirlwind attack, sun and moon slash, and hundred blades to take advantage of that buff, which resulted in very respectable damage output. I kept Watch Yourself! and Shields Up!, but I found I didn't need to use the latter as much, as with 3 monks, my party was not getting hurt too badly by barrages any more.

I didn't ever split my party up, I just fought at one side or the other, and then moved to the middle when getting attacked by both. In the later waves, I stayed by the dragon and used body blocking to help prevent mobs from getting around.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12   #19
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MMs suck.... there minions die in a single swipe from the destoryers of compassion. If they survive that they die from barrage. Why does everyone insist that MMs are so good for this mission?
Pain Inverter + Banishing Strike/Heart of the Holy Flame = win
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23   #20
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My guild leader and I ran it like this:

Me - Axe AoE adrenaline build
Livia - MM
Tahlkora - Holy Haste LoD build
Master of Whispers - SS/Reckless Haste

Him - Sword adrenaline build
Livia - MM
Master of Whispers - SS
Ogden - Healer's Boon healing build



Pretty straightforward, there are points where you should camp the center so both monks can heal the team, but there should be little to no problems with this build.
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