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farmpig · Sep 28, 2007, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Seeking decent hammer builds that do not rely on kd for pve.

Hi guys are there any hammer build which are good in pve without kds?

Thks.

I know KD rules but i would like to see other options ... Pls post with an open mind...
Do not make this thread into a "to kd or not to kd debate" thks....

zknifeh · Sep 28, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

try [skill]forceful blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]yeti smash[/skill]
i dunno... :P... why dont you want to kd ur enemy? imo its awsome to have a kd chain and keep the enemy useless :P

Edit:
i was actually thinking of [skill]enraged smash[/skill] but typed forceful

A Leprechaun · Sep 28, 2007, 12:58 PM // 12:58

Forceful blow -> Feirce blow is a nice non-KD damage combo add in Mighty Blow, Hammer Bash or Yeti Smash, or even all of them, and you'll be fine.
Something a bit like:
[skill]Forceful Blow[/skill][skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Hammer Bash[/skill][skill]Mokele Smash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

It contains a KD as they are useful but does not depend on it, if you dont want it swap it out for mighty blow or yeti smash, up to you, good luck.

~A Leprechaun~

thor thunder · Sep 28, 2007, 01:02 PM // 13:02

PVP--
Counter Blow
Staggering Blow
Fierce Blow
Rush
Enraged Smash (E)
Frenze
Lions Comfort
Endure Pain

PVE--
Counter Blow
Flail
Staggering Blow
Fierce Blow
Yeti Smash
Enraged Smash (E)
Lions Comfort
Endure Pain

Weapons
Hammer Req **
15^50
20/20
+30

And / or
Hammer Req **
15^stance
Furious
+30

Atributes
Str 12+1
HM 12+1

WalkThrough
Pve- You are a weakening dmg house,equipe your furious stance hammer and when a group is agroed target the nearist mob, use flail on them wait till all your skills are full adren, once you skills are all full target the nearist castor or mob (best choice is a low aromor Mob) and start spaming your enraged Smash with Flail with your adren pool full and 7 adren skills your runing about +70 dmg attack every 1-3 seconds =D and for fun thro in weakness.
In pvp this build is great too the counterblow isnt neccisary but its great for disrupts and it charges fast = more dmg from Enraged smash, but rush is neccisary to get to/away from other players and it charges fast in pvp its all about speed. In the pvp build frenze isnt nessisary but it charges your skills fast becasue it doesnt need 4 adren to use.. but flurry is nice too just remeber to cancel it before you go to spike a target.
well hope you like it i just thought this up and im thinking of useing it on my warrior he just got a new hammer too! (ingenous maul XD so amazing looking))
GL
~Thor

Tab · Sep 28, 2007, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Alot of the hammer's strength comes from the ability to KD, as most of the best skills are KD based, and KDing is an extremely strong form of shutdown. If you really don't want a KD based build, axes or swords would probably be a better option.

Yukito Kunisaki · Sep 28, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

The key for a warrior to do anything useful for himself and his party is Deep Wound.

There are an impossibly small number of warriors out there who know what they're doing who can prove that not being able to Deep Wound is beneficial. And even then I wouldn't listen to them

Since Hammers can only DW due to KD, I wouldn't try to use them if I couldn't Deep Wound with them at all. However, if you can find a non-hammer skill that can Deep Wound PvE, like "FINISH HIM!!", then I might consider it...

YunSooJin · Sep 28, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

enraged smash and have your ranger bring infuriating heat.

otherwise..I dunno what to tell you.

Coloneh · Sep 28, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

enrages smash is really the only semi-decent option. but if your not KDing just use an axe for much higher DPS.

zling · Sep 29, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16

in PvE, at least in normal mode you dont really need deep wound. and since the op wanted PvE builds I'd go with something like this:
Forceful Blow->Fierce Blow->Mighty Blow->Frenzy->Enraged Charge->Watch Yourself->Healing Signet->Rez Sig
its the strongest DPS build without KD that the Warrior has, higher than Dragon Slashers and whatever else. that is if you dont consider deep wound...

Coloneh · Sep 29, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45

or hitting multiple foes....

Racthoh · Sep 29, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by zling

in PvE, at least in normal mode you dont really need deep wound. and since the op wanted PvE builds I'd go with something like this:
Forceful Blow->Fierce Blow->Mighty Blow->Frenzy->Enraged Charge->Watch Yourself->Healing Signet->Rez Sig
its the strongest DPS build without KD that the Warrior has, higher than Dragon Slashers and whatever else. that is if you dont consider deep wound...

That is not going to out DPS a Dragon Slasher.

blue.rellik · Sep 29, 2007, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by zling

in PvE, at least in normal mode you dont really need deep wound. and since the op wanted PvE builds I'd go with something like this:
Forceful Blow->Fierce Blow->Mighty Blow->Frenzy->Enraged Charge->Watch Yourself->Healing Signet->Rez Sig
its the strongest DPS build without KD that the Warrior has, higher than Dragon Slashers and whatever else. that is if you dont consider deep wound...

I cannot see how that out damages a DSlasher. A DSlasher can now get consistent +42 for however long FGJ lasts while your build is needs to spend a few hits building adrenaline up. Maybe if you bought FGJ then you could come slightly

glountz · Oct 01, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue.rellik

I cannot see how that out damages a DSlasher. A DSlasher can now get consistent +42 for however long FGJ lasts while your build is needs to spend a few hits building adrenaline up. Maybe if you bought FGJ then you could come slightly

The only way to outdamage a DSlasher with a hammer is to go FGJ with maxed enraged smash under flail.
EDIt: To explain, you use 4 adre skills you won't use or use once (flail, WY!, counterblow, "fear me!") under FGJ. Then you use flail and spam Enraged which will renew itself on hit.
Under flail, you will benefit of the +40 every 1.30 secs, a DS benefits from it every 1 second, but the base DPS of the hammer is quite higher (but armor dependant).
Just test it out on the master of damage. With Enduring harmony for longer FGJ.

jimmyboveto · Oct 01, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

That is not going to out DPS a Dragon Slasher.

Racthoh speaks the truth

Just tried it out on the new nifty master of damage.

Seiously though, if you want to pve with a warrior, take out a sword(or even an axe) to be the most helpful to your team. Not to say that playing a hammer in PvE isn't fun though

masta_yoda · Oct 02, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

dragon slasher has more dps just add a conjure to ur wep

boarderx · Oct 02, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

for a non KD hammer i like
[skill]enraged smash[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill][skill]"fear me!"[/skill][skill]flail[/skill]

i know there is a KD in the but just use Flail and Enraged Smash, and with all the Adren skills charged you just simply spam Enraged Smash for the +40 dmg

then use the rest of your bar for healing and/or defense

Zev · Oct 02, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26

For Enraged Smashing I have a favorite build, which is always open to change/utility.

[skill]Enraged Smash[/skill],[skill]Protector's Strike[/skill],[skill]Flail[/skill],[skill]rush[/skill],[skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] ( [skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill] or any other adren skill of your choice [skill]counter blow[/skill] for example), [skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill],Rez of Choice

The key is to have a Zealous Hammer with you. While you have FGJ! on you, you can hit Enraged Smash on close to every hit. However when FGJ! is recharging, or if it is not charged, use Prot Strike to gain more adren allowing you to nail Enraged on each regular hit. Charge adren, hit flail then chain your Enraged using Prot to keep your adren ready for each strike. Have fun having a DPS of around 80+ on squishies. Use utility adren skills as needed, however DPS should be your first focus most of the time.

Cheers

chadamir · Oct 02, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22

Frenzy + heal sig is not a good combo ever. Id be hard pressed to ever want to bring frenzy into pve.

Utaku · Oct 04, 2007, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Frenzy is absolutely playable in pve. It's just not meant to be up 24/7.