Curse

Sir Pandra Pierva · May 20, 2007, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Does anyone know if this would work on oni on hard mode?

RainwalkerC · Jun 03, 2007, 05:35 AM // 05:35

must try thx

Squalus the Ipno · Jun 04, 2007, 12:27 PM // 12:27

This build is for ele:

Stoneflesh Aura
Ward of Stability
Aura of Restoration
Sliver Armor
Healing Hands (ELITE)
Healing Breeze
Glyph of Elemental Power
Balthazar's Spirit

fast and safe build for farming vermin in HM
Earth 16
Healing prayers 9
Rest in Energy Storage

GL with the drop and thanks anet for Hard mode introduction

ArKaiN · Jun 04, 2007, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Sliver armor as your ONLY damage spell?
Have you even tried that? Because I'm pretty sure you haven't.
BTW: LMAO at healing hands as an elite. You take what, 25 minutes to kill 4 vermin?

I'm using:

Vengeful Was Khanhei
Arcane Echo
Vengeful Weapon(Not very useful)
Resilient Weapon
Mend B&S
Resilient Was Xiko
Physical Resistance
Channeling
16 rest, 12 insp

Cast resillient weapon, channeling, psys res and echo b4 aggro, VwK just as the first vermin hits you,
Mend b&s when life is low, RwX in the end to remove bleed/poison.

Squalus the Ipno · Jun 04, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArKaiN

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Sliver armor as your ONLY damage spell?
Have you even tried that? Because I'm pretty sure you haven't.

LOL, i do not post something that have not tried.....
and to answer to your question: yes, silver armor as my only damage spell.
I'm able to clear all the vermin......i'll post a video if have the time

and btw i do not take 25 minutes to kill 4 vermins BTW2....think before write.....and BTW3 Vengeful Was Khanhei as your only damage spell ???.....lol

Zodiak · Jun 04, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Here is another tip:

Since they are Assassin, they do either Piercing or Slashing damage. Get Yourself a shield with +10AR vs Piercing or vs Slashing, it will do wonders

lennymon · Jun 05, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

So, um, I take it nobody else runs [wiki]Weapon of Shadow[/wiki] to cover when VwK is down? I just cast right as Vwk is ending, and wait about 4 seconds after VwK is recharged before casting it again, it pretty much eliminates the need to spam heal, even on bossy bossy. Obviously them being blind and VwK don't mix, so just don't overlap them. Yes, it's about 15% slower, but safer... also works if you feel the need to um, retreat...

ArKaiN · Jun 05, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

I've tried W. of shadow with some success.
@Squalus: I can keep VwK up for 31 seconds, 41s if I trigger the 36% half recharge from offhand+wand(in any of the 3 castings), and it does 37 damage to ALL the vermin hitting me. You say sliver armor is the same or quicker?

lennymon · Jun 05, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Hmm, W of shadow does seem to be hit or miss now that I try a little more. I must've gotten lucky a few times... The rest of the vermin are no problem on a Rt/Me, perhaps spirit shackles will help, hmm.

Squalus the Ipno · Jun 05, 2007, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArKaiN

I've tried W. of shadow with some success.
@Squalus: I can keep VwK up for 31 seconds, 41s if I trigger the 36% half recharge from offhand+wand(in any of the 3 castings), and it does 37 damage to ALL the vermin hitting me. You say sliver armor is the same or quicker?

ok i'll make a video this afternoon when i finish to work....btw i've earth 18 so:
41 damage
This build is designed to be a safe but you can swap one or 2 skill with damage skills....
Personally i prefer to be safe

Divinus Stella · Jun 05, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

If you want an earth ele build this one works ok, i used it just to see what drops were like in hard mode, energy is tricky you just gotta minimise overlaps.

Glyph of Renewal, Sliver Armor, Stonefelsh Aura, Mystic Regen, Fleeting Stability, Earth Attunement, Glyph of Lesser Energy.

Yeh thats 7 skills, take armor of earth if you wanna kill the boss, only use it against him tho, everything else gits for 0's on stoneflesh

Its extra safe aswel, cant really die unless you spam skills and run out of energy

Squalus the Ipno · Jun 06, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

If you want an earth ele build this one works ok, i used it just to see what drops were like in hard mode, energy is tricky you just gotta minimise overlaps.

Glyph of Renewal, Sliver Armor, Stonefelsh Aura, Mystic Regen, Fleeting Stability, Earth Attunement, Glyph of Lesser Energy.

Yeh thats 7 skills, take armor of earth if you wanna kill the boss, only use it against him tho, everything else gits for 0's on stoneflesh

Its extra safe aswel, cant really die unless you spam skills and run out of energy

Mate i use healing hands casue sometimes happens that i'm not able to cast ward of stability and so Stonefelsh Aura due to KD so i use it and wait until Stonefelsh Aura is charge again

udk-birDy · Jun 07, 2007, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Ole Man Bourbon very nice build

work much better then the RT/W , no celestial weapons yet .... gonna keep trying

just one question .... what is the weapon set you use for the RT/ME build ..

Thanks ... Cheers

=DNC=Trucker · Jun 11, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23

The Rt/D version has given me the least headaches, but is a little more robotic to get used to. It may work better for some, or worse... its just an option

12 Earth Prayers
16 Restoration

[skill]Vengeful was Khanhei[/skill] [skill]Blind was Mingson[/skill] [skill]Mend Body and Soul[/skill] [skill]Fleeting Stability[/skill] [skill]Resilient Weapon[/skill] [skill]Conviction[/skill] [skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill]

I tried an eighth skill (mystic regen/Soothing), but it required way too much energy to pull off. I use a recharge offhand and a recharge wand (chkkr's)

Timing is:

1) Fleeting/Resilient during aggro
2) VwK as first one hits
3) Wait 10 secs
3a) If VwK recharged, use again
3b) If not, cast blind was ming and instantly drop it.
4) Recast fleeting and resilient.
5) Wait 10 secs
6) Repeat from step 2 with VwK

Your healing will occur during step 5. I usually only need to heal once during this time. Using conviction isn't required, but helps a lot if you can't get a 20% recharge, or don't want to buy emissary's armor. It does require you to watch your energy just a bit more, though

Note: this build runs out of energy after a few cycles, depending on your equipment. However, if you run out of energy something didn't go right. Remember theres no point in taking on more than 1 group of vermin (you can usually manage depending on how lucky you get with half recharges and energy usage). I won't get into it now, but you actually take just as long to kill 2 groups at once than 1 group at a time.

Let me know how your Rt/D trials go

Torpoon · Jun 11, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

er, havent tried this but doesnt the old cyclone axe w/mo build work in HM too? it seemed to be a pretty sturdy build when i used it a few months ago in NM.

=DNC=Trucker · Jun 12, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by Torpoon

er, havent tried this but doesnt the old cyclone axe w/mo build work in HM too? it seemed to be a pretty sturdy build when i used it a few months ago in NM.

its pretty rough in HM. The cyclone/triple requires a lot of them to be around you, in HM they warp out so much with heart of shadow, etc... I've done it, but it requires a lot defense, thus crippling your kill rate by way too much to make it worth while