Curse

Lelina · Apr 29, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34

I used following (solo HM)

Blood Magic: 3
Curses: 16 (12+4)
Shadow Arts: 12

- Spiteful Spirit [Elite] (Curses)
- Price of Failure (Curses)
- Suffering (Curses)
- Awaken the Blood (Bloodmagic)
- Death's Charge (Shadow Arts)
- Dash (Assassin None)
- Shadow of Haste (Shadow Arts)
- Dark Escape (Shadow Arts)
- Feigned Neutrality (Shadow Arts)

[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Price of Failure[/skill][skill]Suffering[/skill][skill]Awaken the Blood[/skill][skill]Death's Charge[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]Shadow of Haste[/skill][skill]Dark Escape[/skill]

edit// little changes:

Skills
[skill]Feigned Neutrality[/skill] -> [skill]Awaken the blood[/skill]

Attributes
3 Soul Reaping -> 3 Blood Magic

Keithark · Apr 29, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

tried the OP's build a gazillion times, can never get past the first group alive, and once spiders aggro cannot live long enough to run away and let them bunch up. Would appreciate someone who can do this to take me for a run so I can watch...in the meantime I guess I will continue to kill first group with hench, then plant goren to take spider spawn and when he dies rebirth him out flag away and then kill them...but my God that is slow.

edit: ok, added feigned neutrality and can now lose the spiders and stay alive but still cannot pass first group

edit #2 -- got a run, now I feel so stupid....this is easiest boss farm I have done to date, also can do it with n/r and level a pet superfast in HM took like 5-6 runs to get pet from level 5 to 20

TSS · May 07, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

I use E/Rt:

16earth
4-5nrg storage
12restoration

[skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Kinetic Armor[/skill][skill]Armor Of Earth[/skill][skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Earth Attunement[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill] or [skill]Stone Striker[/skill] or if you want because you have an enchant mod, hopefully use [skill]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill]

one of those kinetic armor symbols is Armor of Earth, but its messed up.
run out, activate armor skills, use VWK and Vengeful when they are needed, use sliver armor also, use Aura of Res to keep up kinetic armor.

Hengis · May 08, 2007, 12:12 PM // 12:12

I was messing around with this run at the weekend using a N/A build. The run is simple and fast, but it has further reinforced my opinion that the faster you kill things the worse the drops.

If I lured the whole group and quickly SS'd them to death, then I would usually get 1-4 drops.

Changing tactics to luring them with a Long Bow in small groups of 3 at a time, I found that killing them this way consistently resulted in many more drops.

NEOgeo · Jun 05, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone

I was messing around with this run at the weekend using a N/A build. The run is simple and fast, but it has further reinforced my opinion that the faster you kill things the worse the drops.

If I lured the whole group and quickly SS'd them to death, then I would usually get 1-4 drops.

Changing tactics to luring them with a Long Bow in small groups of 3 at a time, I found that killing them this way consistently resulted in many more drops.

interesting, i might try my dervish then and stand on the bridge as previously stated

EDIT, cant seem to kill them from above, as soon as u agro them they run the long way round and come uptop *sigh*

Dogma Blutlust · Jun 05, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by gaiaplay

Does the technique only works with melee/archer mobs? I wonder if this will work against Spellcaster/Hexers mobs if there is a way to negate their spell.

for example the skales in fow have a "long-bow-range" if u got out of aggro.circle they on attack and wont cast any spell...so they are farmable easy with VwK^^

NEOgeo · Jun 05, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

descided to test out for sure whether speed of killing realy affects drops, and i was astonished ,

also keep in mind that i had never tried this farming spot even one time before this test with each char,

first run i took ss + reckless haste (important note, i DIDNT use suffering, theres a well known GW bug were if u kill something vs degen then they usually wont drop anything at all ) ...

the results of this run were so bad that its quicker to type the drops than to take a pic, all i got was 2 drops of 100'ish gold, No items at all of any kind, but the group died really quickly,

so next i got my ele and made an invoke lightning build, invoke only hits the target +2 others near , and here are the results :O

yes, it was slow, but this method seems to completly negate loot scaling of any kind , food for thought, no ?

Francis Crawford · Jun 05, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

So is this farm the reason the price of silk has plummeted?

NEOgeo · Jun 05, 2007, 02:46 PM // 14:46

just got the same high amount of drops as my above invoke build, but using this one instead, a bit faster but slower to kill the boss, more convienient than anything else incase u dont have an ele, as the ele build has more synergy with killing the spiders + the boss at same time, and funny to see them pwn the minions u make ( i had an extra skil slot, might aswell at a minion .. something like putrid explosion is too harsh and kills them TOO quick )

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edit, does anyone know what the template tags are ? :<

Memphis Rain · Jun 05, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

So is this farm the reason the price of silk has plummeted?

Far from it, you might get 1 silk from each spider web, but bolts of silks drop a lot more in the Holcyon Job farming.

walmart_player · Jun 05, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

man when i do this farm im lucky to get 2 drops, why are you guys getting so many drops? do i have a farm flag or something?

srry i didnt read your post....i just looked at the pic.

so the speed that you kill them affects drops?!?

CE Devilman · Jun 05, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

HM....use the 50% speed just before the bulls/crock hit U

50% speed - 25% speed - 50% speed (up the hill )

setup the spot to teleport back to -run and agro - teleport back

wait for spider to mob up...run to wall (see center of jpg)

setup the spot to teleport back to -run and agro - teleport back

kill....

btw look for chest...sometimes a chest will pop up after U agro spiders.

I love a good wall..
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5486/gw585tn6.jpg

or just do it the ele way..
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/208/gw587lt5.jpg

hotman...
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4427/gw592ih3.jpg

hotman · Jun 06, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

is this possible in HM, and is it possible ot get run here from the command post?

rg6199 · Jun 07, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by hotman

is this possible in HM, and is it possible ot get run here from the command post?

yes and yes

now an update(i guess).....been testing the theory of drops doing mass kills vs. single kills here. on average, i get 4 drops a run using maxed ss, and an average of 10-12 drops a run killing them 1 at a time.

i found a happy medium between the super fast ss and the super slow solo kill. drop curses down to 12, 12 in blood, and everything else in sr.
i cast ss first which brings them way down, but doesn't kill em, then hit em twice(somtimes 3 times) with vamp gaze and they die. the boss takes 2 ss's and a few vamp gazes, but the little bit of extra time seems to be paying off.

ya i know my sentance structure and capitalization sucks, but i'm tired, so you'll have to forgive me

NEOgeo · Jun 07, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by rg6199

yes and yes

now an update(i guess).....been testing the theory of drops doing mass kills vs. single kills here. on average, i get 4 drops a run using maxed ss, and an average of 10-12 drops a run killing them 1 at a time.

i found a happy medium between the super fast ss and the super slow solo kill. drop curses down to 12, 12 in blood, and everything else in sr.
i cast ss first which brings them way down, but doesn't kill em, then hit em twice(somtimes 3 times) with vamp gaze and they die. the boss takes 2 ss's and a few vamp gazes, but the little bit of extra time seems to be paying off.

ya i know my sentance structure and capitalization sucks, but i'm tired, so you'll have to forgive me

if u use SS @ 14 curses, it leaves them all with litle hp, then use deatly swarm to kill 3 at a time, in my tests killing 3 at a time is the same as 1 at a time

AngeloM3 · Jun 21, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Sorry to bring up a dead thread..... but....

Wow this farm is dead! Farmed it 4 times in a row last night and every time only about 3 spiders dropped either 100ish gold or a white weapon. Only good thing about this farm is that there is usually a locked chest in the area.