Curse

Nerubz · May 19, 2007, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Lets see if we can do anything about this - farming smites on hard mode with...lets say W/Rt. There are few things that come up in my mind:

First - Why Hard Mode? The ecto drop is the same in HM but you get nice (and more) golds and rubies maybe (ive seen those dropping from smites)

Second - The problems!
1. Getting there trought the aatxes. In normal they are very easy to skip but in HM you can't overrun them, and the do pretty decent damage too.

2. Surviving amongst the smites. While you are holding VWK your HP is full and it's all ok, but when you aren't you have to use either dolyak or bonetti's (I use both at the same time). So a sup absorb rune is a must I think.

Build: VWK, Vengeful weapon, Dolyak Signet, Bonetti's, Engraged Charge, Sprint, Signet of Stamina, Heal sig

NOTE: Personally, I find the healing signet a pretty useless skill, at least of normal mode.

Final NOTE: I'd really like to work with the community on this to make that run possible!

Jacxxmaster · May 19, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52

hmm... Don't think it would work. You'd need a way to kill the aatxes, as they have 50% speed boost, and you have 0-25%. The fastest you can get anyway is 33% with a W/Rt (Sprint + Charge), and that isn't fast enough. I'd say go 55 SS. Should work that way.

Jay0 · May 19, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38

a ranger spirit has a thing that reduces all movement boosts, not sure if HM counts as a boost worth a try though... maybe a r/x hero at the start to make that spirit with a huge range, then just run past the first lot and try and not aggro any of the 2nd lot as ur w/rit?

Slotter · May 19, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay0

a ranger spirit has a thing that reduces all movement boosts, not sure if HM counts as a boost worth a try though... maybe a r/x hero at the start to make that spirit with a huge range, then just run past the first lot and try and not aggro any of the 2nd lot as ur w/rit?

1. The speed boost is inheret.
2. All spirits have the same range to my knowledge.

I might work, I guess....

Nerubz · May 19, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

The spirit that reduces movement speed is muddy terrain and its only -10% i think. I still cant figure out how to get past trought those aatxes >.> Maybe get a hero with you and flag him at the aatxes and while they are killing him you sneak past them ^^

Jay0 · May 19, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

monk/mesmer hero
max div favor and smiting
rest in prot/healing
get them to follow u whilst maintaining life bond mending , watchful spirit, succor on you and blessed aura on them for
the next skill ---> have them echo SoJ on u to knockdown aatxes who attack?

or if u cant outrun dying nightmares just let them spam spell breaker and take another hero for soj.... simple

speedy21589 · May 19, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Muddy Terrain does remove the HM speed boost (i've tried it in Stygian Veil). Of course, it means you are also at -10% movement speed.

ArKaiN · May 20, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedy21589

Muddy Terrain does remove the HM speed boost (i've tried it in Stygian Veil). Of course, it means you are also at -10% movement speed.

Hmm. So if you use, say, Dodge under Terrain in HM, do foes break aggro like its NM

Mickey · May 20, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Dash anyone? only run skill that breaks aggro in hard mode, use that, with a shadowform nuker, and gg, haven't tried it yet, but it seems like it might work

Yarrick · May 20, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Veil of Thorns maybe? on a 55 monk

ArKaiN · May 20, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43

btw rubies drop from anything, anywhere, with a low chance. I've gotten them from random lvl 15 foes in tyria.

DvM · May 20, 2007, 09:24 AM // 09:24

You can farm them with a 55 Hp Spoil victor necro, just bring a hero or two to help with the graspings, and they are ok for rebirth situations

Mickey · May 20, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DvM

You can farm them with a 55 Hp Spoil victor necro, just bring a hero or two to help with the graspings, and they are ok for rebirth situations

I was thinking about a D/A build, using Dash, and all the normal solo smites skills, except for AV/SV, and put in that wind prayer attrib skills that lets you rend enchants when you hit a foe for that has less health, and run it from there

Koning · May 20, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

caltrops catched my attention while scrolling trough some skills. running skills would be dark escape and maybe dash. so you have 3 skills, 5 more for killing smites and graspings.
Because I love my w/d using rending aura (and like suggested in post above) lets change to dervish primary.
those 5 skills would than be something like: Zealous vow (e), vital boon, rending aura, conviction, victorious sweep. Don't know if it's enough defense, but having more health than enemy+victorious sweep @ about 12 scythe mastery hitting 3 targets heals you for about 180, and cricitals for about 110

) Only 3 enemies are attacking you anyway, so the damage you're taking shouldn't be too much.
Don't know how we can exactly alter the other attribute point, but im gonna try something like this as soon as i have the time to get on gw again.

We can also always use heroes to kill graspings. Luring them out without getting the aatxes attack you would be the hardest part. Putting caltrops on aatxes before graspings are with them would be one of the options if you're solo, maybe we can even sacrifice heroes if we bring em.

Jade Zephyr · May 20, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Normal Stoneflesh tank with Deep Freeze? Take quest, Cast it on Aatxe, Agro Graspings and kill them. Then Deep Freeze again when you run past... I guess you could even take it instead of Stormdjinns...

Lint · May 21, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

On hard mode I've manages to get past the first 3 aatxes by using burning speed. Once I also got to the smites, but I normally die at the graspings if I aggro them when running. I may post the build later

MercenaryKnight · May 22, 2007, 06:21 AM // 06:21

Rit/assassin maybe? Shadow of haste + dark escape. Use the trick runners do in hard mode and run the opposite way with shadow of haste, then dark escape ahead of them.

AscalonWarrior · May 22, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33

D0pefish's mesmer build can do smite run in Hard Mode
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10125716

Fuzzy Taco · May 22, 2007, 11:08 AM // 11:08

as a 55 necro, i don't have any probs with a smite run. KCP's builds works in HM, you just need to get a little more spammy with your cover hex. Here it is:
16 curses (12+hat+sup rune)
9 heal
9 prot
5 blood magic (for energy from offhand)
rest in soul reaping
(my numbers invlove sup runes of all necro atts)

essence bond
Balth's spirit
mending
Prot spirit
healing breeze
Suffering
Reckless haste (another cover hex, use it as an overpowered guardian)
SS

directions are found at KCP's thread.
search Godlike Satan's Solo Smite Runner and you'll get the old build, but read through it for instructions.

Koning · May 22, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06

Ye I know those 2 (me/e and n/mo) can farm UW in HM, but we are more looking for smite ONLY runners in this thread I think. Not aatxe's + smites, simply because smite only is more profitable and faster.