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May 20, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40	#1
Shikaoru Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Guild: Chaos and Destruction(CaD) Profession: A/N	My 2 new sin builds Rate 'em please! One is A/N and other is A/? So A/N For both builds use this armor: Shrouded+Critical Helm Superior Critical Strikes Superior Dagger Mastery Superior Rune(s) Of Vigor (Forgot if runes stack) Critical Strikes: 12+4=16 Dagger Mastery: 9+3=12 Shadow Arts: 9 Deadly Arts: 3 1st Build Locust's Fury Unsuspecting Strike Mark of Instability Black Lotus Strike Horns Of The Ox Falling Spider Blades Of Steel Plague Touch 2nd Build Mark Of Instability Unsuspecting Strike Black Lotus Strike Critical Strike Way Of Perfection Critical Eyes Critical Defenses Way Of The Assassin Haven't figured out the Dagger yet so please suggest something There you go.....

May 20, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27	#2
Lord Nibiru Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Croatia Guild: KoD Profession: Mo/	Do you really want we rate your builds? 2 superior runes.....2/10 (-150 hp) 1 sup rune of vigor....3/10 (+50 hp=-100hp) 3 points in Deadly Arts.....2/10 1st build: Mark of Instability? Why? you use Horns of the Ox which knockdown your target,no need for Mark....not even new dagger chain 5 /10 2nd build: Let's see....You want use Critical Defense.....you need critical strikes...ok,you got Critical Strike so you can heal yourself (Way of Perfection) and keep Crit Defense on you...but how long? Again Mark of Instability....ok,you really like knockdown opponent.....but bad choose of Off-hand attack....Black Lotus Strike need hexed for to hit,and you can hit it just 1 time...and THEN..you need WAIT 20 sec to again deal damage. wanna I rate that build? 3/10..no,maybe 2/10 Now,let's try make them better.1st Superior runes need become Major runes 2nd,drop points from Deadly arts. 1st build: Replace Mark with self-heal and replace Locust's Fury with Res 2nd build:Again Replace Black Lotus Strike with Wild Strike.......That will be better,I can say anything more or I will make you new builds.....

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May 20, 2007, 05:36 PM // 17:36

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Firstly you don't say what these builds are for. I will assume general pve. Frankly in their current forms they're both rather horrible.

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Shrouded+Critical Helm
Superior Critical Strikes
Superior Dagger Mastery

too many superiors for anything other than a shadow form or specific farming build. Vigors don't stack btw though vitae will.

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Originally Posted by Shikaoru

Critical Strikes: 12+4=16
Dagger Mastery: 9+3=12
Shadow Arts: 9
Deadly Arts: 3

Never go above 13 critical strikes when using daggers. 13 is the last breakpoint for energy gain, points in dagger mastery not only increase your critical chance by more than points in crit they'll also increase your damage by more.

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1st Build
Locust's Fury
Unsuspecting Strike
Mark of Instability
Black Lotus Strike
Horns Of The Ox
Falling Spider
Blades Of Steel
Plague Touch

you can use your chain once only every 20 seconds and Locust's Fury, a terrible skill in itself (if used at all, use with some or several of OoV/OoP, adrenaline output e.g. fear me!, conjures and strength of honor), doesn't make up for that. Solution, replace mark of instability with assassin's promise and use black spider strike instead of falling spider. LF becomes a free slot for a secondary hex, impale or res. I wouldn't recommend plague touch either, you could badly use some form of damage mitigation/IAS. Lightning reflexes can do both.

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2nd Build
Mark Of Instability
Unsuspecting Strike
Black Lotus Strike
Critical Strike
Way Of Perfection
Critical Eyes
Critical Defenses
Way Of The Assassin

As a general rule, never use Way of The Assassin with daggers. Even if it's your only elite. It's pretty much made for scythes. The highly spammable nature US->critical strike is wasted by using a slower recharging offhand, in this case 20 seconds if no other hexers are present. MoI has to go, US should go... Really I can't salvage this build though slots 5-7 are fine for a tanking build for specific areas, they're usually used with something along the lines of moebius strike golden phoenix strike death blossom and critical strike which I'd recommend.

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Haven't figured out the Dagger yet so please suggest something

15^50 zealous +30 health daggers are a good main set. You should really get some elemental daggers as well at the very least, for attacking warriors, and vamp for when you don't need the zealous.

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May 20, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#4
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Locust's fury + attack skills = why? 13 cs = sufficient Don't use majors/superiors unless you really really need to. You don't mention they're for AB, and I don't see why you'd use them in PvE, so I guess you forgot a res signet? No deep wound = failure. Useless lead attack = not done. daggers should be standard: zealous +30 15>50 or vs hexed.

May 22, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57	#5
Shikaoru Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Guild: Chaos and Destruction(CaD) Profession: A/N	ok, then how about this build? AnQyn6Fd64OOM/3+rhdw0fDQCI (put it in gw freak)

May 23, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49	#6
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	No one uses GW freak.

May 24, 2007, 02:04 AM // 02:04	#7
Shikaoru Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Guild: Chaos and Destruction(CaD) Profession: A/N	whatever....... just put in the code... we are both spamming

May 24, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28	#8
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	I've decoded the build..still used BoA...therefor: no.

May 25, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34	#9
Shikaoru Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Guild: Chaos and Destruction(CaD) Profession: A/N	Man this sounds really n00b, but what is BoA? and IAS at that.

May 25, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59	#10
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Burst of Agression. It's been nerfed IAS= increased attack speed.

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