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Lord Garofoli · Jul 19, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Reapers Sweep > Wounding Strike

Any point in Wounding Strike?

Coloneh · Jul 19, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I think we should start a real thread on this. can someone who favors wounding strike PM me a list of pros for it and cons of reaper's.

Tab · Jul 19, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Wounding = more spammable, unconditional deep wound.
Reaper's = Better for spiking.

They're both good skills.

moko · Jul 19, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

what he said.

wounding strike can be seriously amazing, it has a semi good spike ability (tbh, i find the spike with wounding even better than with reapers, but that might be because my wounding strike bar has conjure which is a rof eater).

both very good skills, but i will always favor wounding. ^^

Lord Garofoli · Jul 19, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

I think we should start a real thread on this. can someone who favors wounding strike PM me a list of pros for it and cons of reaper's.

*Cough Cough* This isn't a real thread?

I don't see what pros there are to Wounding except for the spammability of Wounding strike... I've always thought that Wounding was undeserving of elite status.

EDIT: Just a thought but what if you did... Wounding Strike (Deep wound) --> Mystic Sandstorm --> Wounding Strike (Bleeding)? I don't know why bleeding would be worth it but just an idea.

Radiant Dawnstar · Jul 19, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Wounding Strikes Spammability owns pretty much.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 19, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Who cares about bleeding?

Deep wound on 3s recharge is, like, sex.
I'd even use it more if only I didn't love Mel so much :]

moko · Jul 19, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Who cares about bleeding?

Deep wound on 3s recharge is, like, sex.
I'd even use it more if only I didn't love Mel so much :]

Mel to a Derv is like Steady Stance to a War. gg

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 20, 2007, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Reaper's Sweep isnt as good as many people seem to think.

Would you use Eviscerate on someone that's very close to death? Of course you wouldn't, thats wasteful. The 50% condition is simply too low for it to be worth it. At the rate things die in pve, you wouldn't wanna use Reaper's Sweep on somethin below 50%hp. Wounding Strike is tons better in pve cause it's deep wound is basically unconditional and it's very spammable.

TheOneMephisto · Jul 20, 2007, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

Would you use Eviscerate on someone that's very close to death?

Of course I would. That would give me a decent chance of killing them if the monks are under pressure in other ways or aren't paying attention.

Coloneh · Jul 20, 2007, 03:45 AM // 03:45

people are actually treating this thread seriously? im suprised because the op was so one-sided.

I myself love reaper's sweep for a few reasons.
-The bonus damage is insane. I love seeing a fourth of my target's health bar disappear and a deep wound pop up.
-It adds DW at the right time. at just below 50% health you can take most of their health with Reaper's and the rest with mystic sweep. spiking ftw.
-It does something other than deep wound. Once you give your DW with wounding, sure, it recharges in 3 seconds but what can you do with it?
-The only thing i can really see Wounding being good for is a super spammable deep wound for things that die fast. but if things are dieing that fast, why would you need a deep wound?

reaper's wins in my book.

blue.rellik · Jul 20, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

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Originally Posted by Mokone

Mel to a Derv is like Steady Stance to a War. gg

Uhhh he's saying AoM is his the one he likes most

The Defiled Knight · Jul 20, 2007, 06:08 AM // 06:08

They're both great, it depends what build your using personally I love reaper's sweep, because it has a cool name though

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 20, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

The only thing i can really see Wounding being good for is a super spammable deep wound for things that die fast. but if things are dieing that fast, why would you need a deep wound?

Why not speed up the killing process even more with a spammable deep wound? Both have their uses. Reaper's Sweep is somewhat inferior in mid-game pve (lvl20-24's): if it takes you 8 seconds to kill a target, your team is obviously lacking. Reaper's Sweep becomes the better choice when youre fighting enemies that take longer than 8 secs to kill (lvl26's-28's) because their increased hp means that even after you've used Reaper's sweep on them, they'll still have abit of life left....the first thing that comes to mind are Torment Creatures using Call to the torment.

Id rather use both those elites in pvp though. For pve, Lyssa or Mel + Wearying with Eternal Aura is more powerful.

moko · Jul 20, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Uhhh he's saying AoM is his the one he likes most

you clearly don't get the joke, lol.

Snow Bunny · Jul 20, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Mmmm....my monk got reaper'd in the face last night. Very pleasant. I have never been more intimidated by a derv, but I have also never been hit for 162 in pvp. Reaper's takes my vote

Tab · Jul 20, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Yeah, a crit from Reaper's that meets the condition isn't very pleasant, but that's about all it can do. Wounding has better all-round use.

Coloneh · Jul 20, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20

how so?

on a basic level, reapers does effectively the same thing as wounding except with extra damage.

Abraxas Fafnir · Jul 21, 2007, 11:31 AM // 11:31

I think they are both extremely gd skills but I prefer wounding strike. You run up to your target and BAM straight away a deep wound. Then follow up with victorious sweep for descent damage and because theyve got a deep wound their health is probably lower than yours so you get the victorious sweep health bonus. Monk removes deep wound? Add it again. You could be hitting 3 targets at once so thats 3 unconditional deep wounds. OK so reapers sweep has that extra damage, but nothing that another attack skill cant do. Also the 50% health condition is b**ch and that 8s recharge time is painful.

Coloneh · Jul 21, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58

-the 8 seconds isnt that long, if things are dieing in 7 seconds they dont need a deep wound.
-The 50% health condition is not a problem. targets above 50% do not need to have deep wound, the only reason for that is to waste their monk's energy on condition removal.
-Reaper's has more unconditional bonus damage than any other scythe attack. dont say another skill can do its damage.
-PvE enemies dont have so much health that you need to do alot of damage to be able to get the bonus from victorious. with a vigor rune and no superior runes you should have more health than most PvE foes.