Curse

nunix · Jul 17, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

So I picked up a pair of Stygian Daggers and figured I'd see how they look with warrior primeval; pretty good! But I haven't been able to really come up with any kind of build that would take advantage of Strength or warrior runes.

Not looking for something especially -spectacular- here, but maybe some kind of gimmick-y thing that'd be fun to use once in awhile.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 17, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

The only kind of synergy a warrior really offers is Flourish [skill]flourish[/skill].

Running a long-ish attack chain (those of us who've played 'sin can attest to this - 2 Dual attacks on a chain is near enough essential for actually killing something... or Impale + Signet of Toxic Shock, the warrior has trouble getting access to tho

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5 x 5e attacks + Flourish at 12 spec will break even, however without Critical Strikes you'll need slightly under 30 energy to pull the chain off (25e + Flourish... then go kill something else). If you want to run an IAS with that Burst of Aggression is prime - you'll likely not have enough energy to pull off the chain, without using Zealous daggers... defeating the purpose of the build in the first place. Honestly, given the energy constaints placed upon yourself by HAVING to wield vamp daggers...

Basically, any dagger-based Warrior build is just a poor assassin, trying to fit Flourish in. Other than that one skill... there is absolutely NO reason to run as a W/A. Strength does shit-all extra damage, ESPECIALLY with daggers.

Hmm... Enough indecipherable musings... and...
1) Work out something with Flourish and a long chain. It will suck, just hopefully not as bad as... other possibilities.

2) You could create a 'sin and give him/her the daggers

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jul 17, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

any sin spike is very limited if you lack crit strikes =/ You can use Victory is Mine!, maybe a shove sin warrior version, Soldier's Stance+Soldier's defense spam with attack chain, or use Warrior's Endurance/Defy Pain/Battle Rage/Charging Strike (zealous dags would help in any case)

You could use:
Jagged Strike
Exhausting Assault
Horns of the Ox
Falling Spider
Blades of Steel

Play around with it, IMO I would try and use a Strength Elite because strength+daggers looks deadly if you can find a good attack chain. Power attack on daggers ftw lol (i dont think you should use that but if you find it useful i guess lol)

Age · Jul 18, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

You might want to keep in mind that Warrior only have 2 pips of regen that is why most only use 1 e skill and the rest all adrenal.

Darkpower Alchemist · Jul 19, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I've toyed with the W/A, but the dagger builds have nothing on the sin counterpart. If you're trying a dagger build with a warrior, you'll need to realize 2 things.

1)Zealous Daggers are your friends. Without them and an IAS, you go dry fast.
2) Hexing opponents may be your only hope. And with the max energy available(30-35 depending on runes and dagger mods) your 2 pips will dry fast unless your build includes attacks that take advantage of hexing or enchantments to give back energy.

Oh, and without Critical Strike, daggers just don't work as they would with a sin. You're a pretender when you're not doing the crit strike thing,imo. If you want to spike, axe in hand is the way the warrior mostly goes.