Curse

Coloneh · Jul 03, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

On an unrelated note.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] The only IAS in the game that isn't a stance. Use it.

[skill]Rampage As One[/skill] is just a 'skill' not a 'stance'

=D

Stormlord Alex · Jul 03, 2007, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Someone forgot [skill]aggressive refrain[/skill] as well...

Evilsod · Jul 03, 2007, 02:15 PM // 14:15

And Critical Agility and Never Rampage Alone, but they're PvE only skills so...

I really don't see the attraction of this build. Vow of Strength is severely hindered by armour and your using a weapon with the lowest critical hit of all weapons (nobody auto-attacks with daggers so its irrelevant). It has no IAS either. Vow of Strength is completely out of date now anyway thanks to Aura of Holy Might, at r5 allegience, not too hard to attain, you get 25%. 25% less than 15 Earth Prayers, about the same as 7 Earth Prayers for a non-elite with no attributes used that can be maintained for a very good duration combined with Eternal Aura and an Avatar.

There is no way the sword, without an IAS can possiby be better than using a Scythe, for a start Scythe has 2 spammable attack skills that bypass the slow attack speed.

Pericles · Jul 12, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

[QUOTE=The Defiled Knight]Dude get a freaking life i bet you havn't even tried it, mabe you should accept people like to use unique builds and hey some of those people who try out this sorta build do screw up and can't quite grasp it and then some people make builds tha are great maybe tools like you should accept that some people are differant and try other things instead of just sticking to sterotypical dervishes if you only use the original weapons for your character you must be a really boring person... and i bet that when you were at school you were a little retard that followed the cool kid crowd... seriously you've got problems.

And this is directed to everyone who thought the idea of sword weilding dervishes are lame and useless and I really don't care what you guys say about me for defending this guys ideas.[/QUOTE

NOOO!!! , there is NOBODY in the entire universe who has ever made a 'great' swordwielding build for a dervish. You might think it's fun and i respect that, but dont you EVER EVER say that this build 'could' work better than a scytne wielding dervish/swordwielding warrior. Theres a reason why some builds are stereotypical and others are absolute rubbish, and you should accept that.
I also don't see the 'fun' in running a crappy build. Maybe i should make a warrior/monk with ONLY a focus item, because it's 'fun'.

howlinghobo · Jul 22, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

i pity the teams in ra where you landed

vow of strength is a decent skill in ra... because with high scythe mastery you can crit alot, and since scythe max damage is so high you can get the most out of your vow of strength

this build has absolutely zero advantages, cant even use hekets rampage like normal vow of strength dervs do

i hate these non scythe dervs so much, because 99% of them are made by some self proclaimed 'pro innovative non conformist' who will never admit the obvious flaws to their build

Corpselooter · Jul 22, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16

To sum this topic up.

Scythe > Sword. Period.

(PS. Go /mo and take Mending + Mystic Regen.)

samcobra · Jul 22, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

OP, you're dumb

Fox Reeveheart · Jul 22, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

I always wanted to make a sword wielding dervish, especially with my new glacial blade >.>

This is an awesome idea. I don't know about the build but I thought something to get off a lot of attacks would be smooth like...

hundred blades with sun and moon slash. get off like 4 attacks on one guy really fast O_o

Edit:

OH HERE, have some enchantment on then twin moon sweep, hundred blades, then sun and moon slash, a nice quick 6 attacks =p

edit #2: and yes i know twin moon sweep is scythe mastery but you can have no points in the attribute, the only thing affected is how much health gain you get.

Corpselooter · Jul 22, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

[QUOTE=Fox Reeveheart]

OH HERE, have some enchantment on then twin moon sweep, hundred blades, then sun and moon slash, a nice quick 6 attacks =p

QUOTE]

You could potentially do the same on a dervish with a scythe, hit 6 targets that is with Twin Moon Sweep, bring some real advantages to the table pl0x.

Fox Reeveheart · Jul 22, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

well yeah you could do that but then again the dervish has always had that option. but with the attack speed of a sword and all those other skills you will get off 6 attacks fairly quickly... i had some ideas for some builds

swordsmanship
mysticism
tactics

twin moon sweep
sun and moon slash
hundred blades
heart of fury
wild blow???
some kind of stance to block attacks, maybe 2 of these. one to go after the other in chaining succession
ummm.... either go with a zealous sword hilt or some energy gain skill like zealous renewal.
faithful intervention or any other cover enchantment for twin moon sweep. this would be a good enchantment to cast before going into the fray then open with twin moon sweep

lots of options

this is not for farming obviously but seems like a nice high dps.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 22, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57

You'd need some kind of damage buff on them 6 hits, tho. Swords are weak at 12 rank. You really need an order necro riding your ass to be dealing any actual damage. Otherwise, you're merely charging adrenaline for no real purpose.

Mr Emu · Jul 22, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

if you're going to waste your life making sword dervs, at least run S/M slash, heart of fury, and some avvy that can make use of all the hits

pingu666 · Jul 23, 2007, 02:25 AM // 02:25

barbous slice
gash
twin moon sweep
sun and moon
conviction/watch yourself
derv ias i forget what its called
vital boon/faithful
res

but yeah, its not as good as a warrior, or a dervish :\

Fox Reeveheart · Jul 23, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

actually using Twin moon sweep and sun and moon slash with lyssa avatar would be pretty disasterous for any caster. I mean since you are a caster you are always casting basically so always having that nice fast and sex damage output with a fast weapon.