Curse

Cobalt · Nov 24, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

- You E/Me(Build in first post) and a Monk Hero (or Human) bonder with Balthazars spirit and Life Barrier (elite) to cast on you and then stay/flagged out of agro range might be helpful to gain energy and mitigate damage.

Edit: You should also put Holy Veil on the Monks skill bar suggested above in case they get a degen hex on you because it seems like all it takes is one to kill you.

For those that want to dual this is even better!

Do as above, put 16 smite and 14 protect on your monk bonder, with 16 smite balth's spirit gives you plenty of energy return and Life Barrier gives added protection, so you no longer need Mantra of Earth. I suggest you replace Mantra with Shatter Hex, it plus Holy Veil gives you more than adequate protection from Hexes that may slip in and makes farming with the OP's build much smoother.

The downside is this shows how bad the mass kill loot system is especially with a Hero/Hench along as I have killed groups of 30 and gotten as little as 3 drops.

However it makes for easy rep farming this way.

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Another tip:

If you are using a Hero Monk as a bonder then make it a M/W and add Charge to the skil bar or W/P and add Godspeed to the skill bar for a speed boost for the walk over from Longeye.

ragnagard · Nov 24, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

- You E/Me(Build in first post) and a Monk Hero (or Human) bonder with Balthazars spirit and Life Barrier (elite) to cast on you and then stay/flagged out of agro range might be helpful to gain energy and mitigate damage.

Edit: You should also put Holy Veil on the Monks skill bar suggested above in case they get a degen hex on you because it seems like all it takes is one to kill you.

Sorry if i dont catch your main idea but... why do you wanna put a monk if the E/Me build could tank this alone.... ¿farming or survivor plan? I only put "try-to-kill-faster" suggestions :P, not any to survive.

And i say again, in my point of view you cant count on this as legendary survivor leveling zone. Even if you got time (secs!) to cast stoneflesh aura... it still got 2 seconds casting so its 30 * vaettir damage in 2 seconds....

Maybe (mightbe) you could get a "pro leveler" that does the run and let you get half the experience (taking care about the aggro).

I created this char only to farm (not only thise place) and it took 8 hours 8 minutes to get level 20 (in factions of course), and getting 1M exp in about 9 days of playing (i mean days using /age), so thats the time you should think about.

I also forget to mention that you could get Norn faction points in each run, so its 120 points always and a lot more if you get the x2 bless. I reach rank 3 just here lol.

You could be lucky if ya go in a two dual E/Me run:

Cobalt · Nov 24, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by ragnagard

Sorry if i dont catch your main idea but... why do you wanna put a monk if the E/Me build could tank this alone.... ¿farming or survivor plan? I only put "try-to-kill-faster" suggestions :P, not any to survive.

Yes of course you can solo this, but what I am suggesting using a Monk Bonder for an easy mode way of doing this with a lot less risk of dying thus not getting the 60dp and being forced back to town.

ragnagard · Nov 24, 2007, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

Yes of course you can solo this, but what I am suggesting using a Monk Bonder for an easy mode way of doing this with a lot less risk of dying thus not getting the 60dp and being forced back to town.

errrr i dunno if ya already know that but... a minigroup of vettir will put away even 45%dp. I tested it when i was talking while farming

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Of course you can do that but.... you will see that drop wont be so good ^^. And if u add the "special thanksgiving day items" it would be near zero cool items :P

Cobalt · Nov 25, 2007, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by ragnagard

errrr i dunno if ya already know that but... a minigroup of vettir will put away even 45%dp. I tested it when i was talking while farming

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Of course you can do that but.... you will see that drop wont be so good ^^. And if u add the "special thanksgiving day items" it would be near zero cool items :P

Yea I did get some good stuff but after doing it a number of times I now have over 50 pies and 50 ciders so they drop a lot.

Anyone found any other good spots to try with this build yet?

ragnagard · Nov 25, 2007, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

Yea I did get some good stuff but after doing it a number of times I now have over 50 pies and 50 ciders so they drop a lot.

Anyone found any other good spots to try with this build yet?

Same here. Event items just keep drop away from us, ^^. yeah, i know they can be used to earn title rank but... 10.000 pieces of cake are a lot of time farming

. I think that when event ends, there should be better drops... at least, more glacial stones (i hardly get one now, and i got 9 in a run before).

On the other hand, i dunno any good places to use this build. I tracked all the vaettir around this place (remember, my char is only a farm char, has no map explored or... almost nothing) and u cant do anything because of the other vaettir thar appear with them. Most important problem is Illusionary Weapon, as it isnt considered as a spell, but a physical attack.
Its hard to find a near, casters-only, no AOE fleeing place like this... even in NM.

Some idead (thoughs in Ragna's mind):
Factions
I tried the mantids at the exit from Nahpui region (they got monks so its reeeeeeally pointless) and farm Tahkayun Tsi (i mean the mantid boss), going south from Ran Musu Gardens. Tahkayun its easy to take down, just going next to him and use sliver armor. Then you can dance and see a example of self killing. Got its unique item so many times that i sell to merchant. No elite tome ever dropped by Tahkayun(countless runs).

Nightfall
I tried to kill the Mindclouder. That objective was done. Even in HM he could be beaten by the same or similar build. The problem is the "hey!-i-am-here-to-keep-farming-apart" pair of paragons that use a Burning skill that ... well, cause burning lol. Drop isnt so good as i dint get nothing great (no unique, no elite tome).

Eye of north
Yeah, ya know, those wind riders you find at magus stones exiting from Rata Sum.... If they drop elemental swords as youtube ppl said... i ever got one... but I got something... I got REALLY booooring farming them. Its slooow, non-profitable and "long" farming as they flee from combat and all things ya know.... I put a Boring sticker on this idea

. They may drop the swords and y may be unlucky, but I think this dont worth your effort.

Dunno if there are more places to farm (yet).... i would appreciate some1 find and post 1 like "mine" cause some one could run you to Longeye's Edge from Eye of the North, even without fighting (well, maybe a group or two of 2 mandragors) and without doing any mission (just go there walking/running). If its "profitable" as vaettir one... man, gonna make us richs too

/salute ^^

the Puppeteer · Nov 25, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

ahh - I can already see the price for glacial stones drop to the price of charr carvings...
Even the price for greater highlander blades is gonna drop

cheap stuff for all!

ragnagard · Nov 25, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by the Puppeteer

ahh - I can already see the price for glacial stones drop to the price of charr carvings...
Even the price for greater highlander blades is gonna drop

cheap stuff for all!

Then Arenanet will see that stuff should be cheaper (i'm dreaming, soz! this is Expensive Wars!).. and market will low prices itself.... Why not to have a "cool" gaunlets without paying 75 ectos plus cash (yeah i think I will ever have so much on my account rofl).

Abedeus · Nov 25, 2007, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Hopefully, some people are just lazy. Yesterday I sold 7 glacial stones for 500g each, just because someone wanted gloves and didn't even know where those stones drop... So no need to panic, as long as there are lame and rich people, we have a nice source of income.

the Puppeteer · Nov 25, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Hopefully, some people are just lazy. Yesterday I sold 7 glacial stones for 500g each, just because someone wanted gloves and didn't even know where those stones drop... So no need to panic, as long as there are lame and rich people, we have a nice source of income.

saw a couple of traders - selling em for 300g each

tekDragon · Nov 25, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

I've been farming the vaettir for a while to get the gold drops and the stones were just a nice side benefit. The price pf stones has baffled me, a while ago getting rid of stones for even 100g each was a pain. Maybe there just wasnt a market for them because everyone wanted d-cores. Last 2-3 weeks I've sold em for anywhere between 300g to 500g, even traded them for cores.... I expect the prices will go back down in no time though, but we'll see...

ragnagard · Nov 25, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Destructor cores, got builds for almost any GW professions, glacial stones don't. That's the point. I think that the 300g price is normal, maintainable and just for the time farming 100 of them.

I already got the gauntlets, i just keep going for golden items

Miss Filth · Nov 26, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Any1 tried this in HM with the ele sword A/E build yet? hmmm ...

tekDragon · Nov 26, 2007, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Havent tried it but my educated guess is you die a horrible death. These vaettir have ridiculous elemental damage resistance.

ragnagard · Nov 27, 2007, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Miss Filth

Any1 tried this in HM with the ele sword A/E build yet? hmmm ...

I dunno what kind of build is that... but... i will tell ya "no". Even if you wanna use the same skills as A/E, it will be a death without pity!. Obsidian flesh wont be maintainable even with glyph(i tried with my cute female monk ^^).

And if you wanna do a A/E Shadow form fire spiker... i say.... "no" again. Vaettir have a 160 armor against elemental damage... so ... if you wanna do them a 3 3 3 3 .....3 damage... you'll surely die.. or dont kill anyone.

Miss Filth · Nov 27, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17

This is the elemental sword farming build http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...l_Sword_Farmer I suppose you would just take out LB Gaze and put in, say, crystal wave?

ragnagard · Nov 27, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by Miss Filth

This is the elemental sword farming build http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...l_Sword_Farmer I suppose you would just take out LB Gaze and put in, say, crystal wave?

It looks kinda cool for elemental farming but.... see my video... and you will see that sliver armor deals 7 damage per hit to any vaettir, so using this even with crystal wave... i think that it wont be the needed damage output.

And you still have to group 'em, so shadow form wont last forever (hehe) and now Deadly paradox is "downgraded" to 33%.... I think it's too risky.

Understand me i dont wanna kill all your options lol, i also have a A/E (yeah i got most farming chars haha) but ele/me looks the right and almost only option for me.

Maybe a 600 mo with a smiter (dual, of course) could do the job...... but Spirit Bond just run away in seconds if you tank "faster hitting" mobs... ... mmm i am just getting an idea on my mind hehehe.. will try to post that later :P

/salute!