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Aeos Luxus · Aug 30, 2010, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Hello,
I am newer to guild wars, I have been searching/playing for that one desired class, but have been unsuccessful as a Dervish, Warrior, and Assassin so far.
The dervish class seems unbalanced and somewhat useless to me, and the assassin and warrior is just not my style lol.

I am a ranger/caster style player, but I have been reading threads that say that the Elementalist is more support in end-game, but I have seen other threads where people brag how their elementalist still is a high-end nuker. So I then ask myself what the best primary class is, currently I am leaning towards Necromancer/Elementalist, but I am unsure how useful or useless I will be in the higher levels.

Please give good, strong feedback as I am only a month into the game lol

reaper with no name · Aug 30, 2010, 03:44 PM // 15:44

There is no single best class (any more). This is a team game, and builds for high-end PvE (such as SCs) involve multiple classes.

Off the top of my head:

Assassin: SF is still incredibly powerful post-nerf, and it's ability to tank just about anything make it essential to most high-end SCs.

Elementalist: I've seen firsthand what an ER healer can do in UW. And believe me, it's amazing.

Monk: UA is often desirable as a resurrection skill (in Urgoz, you need it or another teleporting-type resurrection to get the whole party through a certain part).

Necromancer: MoP+AP is part of the biggest damage combo in the game.

Warrior: HB+WA is another part of it. Throw in a tank, the right mobs, the right terrain, and some luck, and you can do a 2000+ damage nuke.

Ritualist: SoS is always wanted.

But even if you don't have a completely optimal class, it doesn't necessarily exclude you from high-end areas entirely (now SCs...that's another story...). That's what guilds and friends are for.

SpyderArachnid · Aug 30, 2010, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by reaper with no name

There is no single best class (any more). This is a team game, and builds for high-end PvE (such as SCs) involve multiple classes.

Basically Reaper said it. There is no best class. Every class is great in endgame content, it all depends on the player.

Play what you are most comfortable with and get great at it, and don't worry about what everyone else says is the best. Cause there is no best out there, there is only great players that know their class. That is what is most essential in endgame content.

Aeos Luxus · Aug 30, 2010, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Since the best class is whatever style most fits the player, I think I will stick with Necromancer/Elementalist... Thanks guys

TheodenKing · Aug 30, 2010, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by reaper with no name

Monk: UA is often desirable as a resurrection skill (in Urgoz, you need it or another teleporting-type resurrection to get the whole party through a certain part).

lolwut? You get down the way you got up (if it's the bridge and the levers you are talking about). You might be thinking of the Deep, though, where you need to rez people through the gate.

Anyway, everything has a place in endgame. Some classes are more useful than others for certain team metas. But everything does something. Play what is fun for you and what you are good at.

raddish · Aug 30, 2010, 11:00 PM // 23:00

at the moment, most SCs and high end areas lean towards mesmer spikers, mainly for VoR and Keystone signet, although really, there is no best class since they are all used for different places, UW and FoW for example, wont use a single mesmer, but in DoA its unusual to find anything other than DWG ritualists or Keystone/VoR Mesmers.
The truth is, just find something you enjoy playing and stick to that, then try to find SCs that you can fit into. Anyway, since a-net will most likely nerf most of the prominent nuking skills-that could be seen as overpowered- in the near, or distant future (They have a habit of doing this), it wont really matter what you make, because they may well be useless in 3 months time. (not saying this will happen, just saying it might, so don't get to attached to a single style of play)

If I had to recommend a class, it would probably be Mesmer if you want a more agressive role, or a monk if you want a support role that will almost always be needed, I cant think of many high end areas that dont use a monk other than UW. Either way, as I said before, just find something you like, and do that.

reaper with no name · Aug 30, 2010, 11:47 PM // 23:47

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Originally Posted by TheodenKing

lolwut? You get down the way you got up (if it's the bridge and the levers you are talking about). You might be thinking of the Deep, though, where you need to rez people through the gate.

Anyway, everything has a place in endgame. Some classes are more useful than others for certain team metas. But everything does something. Play what is fun for you and what you are good at.

Yes, the Deep, sorry. Not Urgoz. Urgoz is the one that requires Necrotic Transversal.

Aeos Luxus · Aug 31, 2010, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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Originally Posted by reaper with no name

Yes, the Deep, sorry. Not Urgoz. Urgoz is the one that requires Necrotic Transversal.

Necrotic Transversal? Sounds like a necromancer

. Guess I will be needed in end game lol... Anyways I enjoy the style of play, except I am curious if I should rather go E/N as I use the Elementalist side skills a bit more than my actual Necromancer skills.

kryptina · Aug 31, 2010, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

Basically Reaper said it. There is no best class. Every class is great in endgame content, it all depends on the player.

Play what you are most comfortable with and get great at it, and don't worry about what everyone else says is the best. Cause there is no best out there, there is only great players that know their class. That is what is most essential in endgame content.

Couldn't have said it farther from the truth.

If you want to do any kind of endgame content a higher percentage will indefinitely be done as the Assassin. I know you've said you dont like it, but its truth when it comes to the shadowform being king no matter how many times its been nerfed.

Close seconds will be the mesmer, necro, then ritualist. Elementalists have seen better days, but their nukes cause so much scatter its hard to really get them into any sort of true endgame content without having a teambuild revolving around that sort of nuking power.

Lillium · Aug 31, 2010, 04:24 AM // 04:24

There's not a single best class for general endgame, but there are some places that favor certain classes over others. And it has before and will again change, as the metas shift due to skill updates.

DoA currently heavily relies on ritualists and paragons. In HM the team very strictly is 4 ritualists, 1 mesmer, 1 paragon, and 2 monks. In NM any class except a warrior will do fine, however the monks and paragon are still required and the team usually runs ritualist heavy.
Genrally, DoA groups are caster heavy. Melee groups are secondary to whatever the caster meta is, and usually you can not find a physical PuG. You will should never see Elementalists used as healers here, as they can not make it through Foundry.

Urgoz & the Deep can take literally any class in my experience. Warriors and Assassins are desired as tanks, Paragons and Dervishes are generally undesired but can still find a team, and every other class is perfectly welcome for damage. Monks are required for healing, and a support necromancer with BiP and 1 hp is required (for party energy regen). The allowance of 12 man teams really opens up what you can have in your party, and these places tend to have the least strict requirements on groups.
Urgoz & the Deep should always be run in HM, imo. The difficulty to complete the missions does not increase by hardly anything if you're already used to being in HM.

UW requires two Elementalists as healers in recent Metas, you are unlikely to find yourself healing on a monk. I enjoy and see physways the most for UW, which usually means ~4 assassins or warriors and requires one necromancer. There are caster groups too, sit in ToA or sift through pvx for those.

The current solo farming meta is a ritualist with SoS. Dungeons/group farms like to use assassins and monks (but I'm not sure what else, not a fan of dungeons personally).
So basically as reaper said, there's no single best class that will take you through everywhere. But if you know you want to spend a lot of time at one specific place you can pick a class that is more likely to be desired in that location.