Curse

masonthesurfer · Dec 13, 2007, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Which one? Magebane is good. But so is broadhead arrow. In PvP obviously when a caster gets dazed he goes nuts Ctrl-clicking on the condition (at least in my experience), and if the monk is decent, the condition will usually be removed.

But, in PvE, monsters don't normally remove conditions (as always, there are exceptions.)

So, which would be better for PvE for just completely shutting down casters(Monks -

)??

I would think Broadhead arrow, savage shot, and distracting shot would shut down a caster better than Magebane/savage/distracting but i could be wrong.

Any people know about this?

Marverick · Dec 13, 2007, 03:00 AM // 03:00

BHA in PvE, Magebane in PvP.

Daze is kinda useless in PvP with [skill]Restore Condition[/skill] Monks on almost every team and a few copies of [skill]Draw Conditions[/skill].

For PvE it's really easy to just overwhelm the condition removal with [skill]Apply Poison[/skill]. I don't think a single mob as RC in PvE.

masonthesurfer · Dec 13, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Ok good so I'm correct! I just started Guild Wars a month or two ago, and I'm just starting to get a basic grasp of how things work. Btw, how much do Elite Ranger Tomes Run for? About 7k?(I know I should start price check thread but oh well, I'm Lazy.)

Amy Awien · Dec 13, 2007, 07:35 AM // 07:35

Daze requires a high rate of attack to be effective as interrupt and only works on spells, [wiki]Magebane shot[/wiki] interrupts all actions.
Alternatively, Choking Gas with Practiced Stance can do well against groups of casters and does not need to actually hit the target.

Wakka · Dec 13, 2007, 09:35 AM // 09:35

I like running Magebane in PvE at the minute

No reason, I just like it lol

But BHA is prolly your best bet in PvE, its just a bit common now tbh

bungusmaximus · Dec 13, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Magebane is dirt cheap, on a good ranger with tab-spasms it's very useful I think. It's way more flexible then choking gas and broad head, but it DOES require more work. I would go for broad head though, because I'm not a good ranger, heroes aren't either.

Lhim · Dec 13, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10

I actually always use Punishing Shot, I like the damage

Broad Head Arrow is a good skill when you are up against a really tough boss. But other then that I wouldn't equip it. The flight time and recharge time makes me stay away from it in general.
To be honest, I haven't tried Magebane shot yet. Ive always been statisfied with punishing shot, d-shot and savage shot. I'll give it a try though

Wakka · Dec 13, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30

I normally ran Punishing Shot for just general PvE. Then I tried Magebane and have never looked back

Toutatis · Dec 13, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32

I would generally go for Broad Head Arrow in the PvE environment. The downside of it is that it's a little more on the expensive side, so it needs you to watch your energy a bit more.

One interesting part of BHA is that it lets you interrupt two casters at once. Fire off BHA at one target and get your pet or another party member to keep attacking that target; the daze from BHA combined with the attacks from other allies can generally keep that target's spellcasting capabilities silenced. In the meantime, you can switch targets and focus your other interrupt skills on a different target. Quite a useful tactic if the party is dealing with multiple enemy casters.

Wakka · Dec 13, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34

Yea Toutatis is right

We ran a party down to Shards of Orr the other night where there's 2 monks per mob, and without BHA it should have been a lot harder.

Nice tip ^^

masonthesurfer · Dec 13, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

So... What should I go for? If broad head arrow is a good option, I was thinking something like this --

R/mo...

[skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill][skill]Distracting shot[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]hunter's shot[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill]

Spread bleeding + poison around, and shut down casters.

attributes -Marksmanship - 11+2+1(14)
expertise - 11+1(12)
wilderness survival - 8+1(9)
protection prayers - 2 + 1(3)

rez could go somewhere in there....

thanks!

Wakka · Dec 13, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Drop hunters for the Res. Hunters shot is a bit too conditional and should only really be used to cover Daze, but you have AP for that ^^

masonthesurfer · Dec 13, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Yeah.. it is a bit reliant on their movement, and since casters don't move(as often as melee characters) It would be harder to cover daze with it. Possibly Screaming Shot?..I do have apply poison to cover the dazed though. Is there a bowstring that increases dazed duration?

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 02:17 AM // 02:17

BhA pve, Mage in Pvp I agree with.

MasterSasori · Dec 14, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Drop hunter's for a solid rez.

I'd suggest tinkering with Magebane now that its all pumped up from the updates.

If you go BHA, be sure to bring a pet.

blue.rellik · Dec 14, 2007, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wakka

Yea Toutatis is right

We ran a party down to Shards of Orr the other night where there's 2 monks per mob, and without BHA it should have been a lot harder.

Nice tip ^^

Smite monks laff at Shards of Orr

Lhim · Dec 14, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by masonthesurfer

Is there a bowstring that increases dazed duration?

Yes, Silencing bowstrings. They increase dazed duration by 33%.

distilledwill · Dec 14, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10

Im currently running this as an AB build:

[card]Broad Head Arrow[/card][card]Distracting Shot[/card]Sloth Hunter's Shot[card]Apply Poison[/card][card]Lightning Reflexes[/card][card]Mending Touch[/card][card]Natural Stride[/card][card]Troll Unguent[/card]

Im trying out LR in there, but its flexible. Any suggestions as to what i could replace it with?

LightningHell · Dec 14, 2007, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by distilledwill

Im currently running this as an AB build:

[card]Broad Head Arrow[/card][card]Distracting Shot[/card]Sloth Hunter's Shot[card]Apply Poison[/card][card]Lightning Reflexes[/card][card]Mending Touch[/card][card]Natural Stride[/card][card]Troll Unguent[/card]

Im trying out LR in there, but its flexible. Any suggestions as to what i could replace it with?

More Savage Shot is win.

The basis of all Ranger PvP builds are Distracting Shot and Savage Shot.

Lhim · Dec 14, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44

I would squeeze in [skill]pin down[/skill] somewhere, so you'll have a better chance for BHA to hit, if you want to use that as your elite.