Curse

Sirugel Kai · Dec 25, 2007, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Sorry, but i havn't had my Dervish very long.. therefore im not that used to them yet
I came to this topic to learn some and give my opinion.. Not to get told how i need to quit gw, im the worst dervish ever and that i have "something wrong with me"

You can't see me · Dec 25, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Balthazar sucks, you can nerf grenth to being

for 5 seconds, your hits remove all enchantments.
120 second disable.

Balthazar will still suck the most.
Because Balthazar isn't even a real dervish skill.

Its A wammo's dream.

/Fail.

AoB is under rated because most who junk it don't have the brains to figure out how to use it. -.-

+33% Speed Boost may be unescasarry, but I find it very refreshing for my playstyle. After beating campaigns seven + times by the time I used to get to beating it with my dervish, I didn't feel like sticking around to kill every mob in the area. AoB allowed me to run through many hard areas with ease. Combined with Eternal Aura it's an indefinete speed boost, which is, no excuse, awesome.

I also use it in PvP. Yeah, flame me for it. There are other ways for a dervish to remove hexes, remove conditions, and deal more damage without wasting your elite. The speed boost is /win in alliance battles when you're up against pesky kiters, and the armor bonus is something I notice immediatly. I've fought all the other avatars in AB and RA with Balthazar. 9/10 times I'll win because I know how to chain skills to make the avatar useful.

If you don't know how to utilize AoB, and complain that it's crap, you shouldn't be playing a dervish IMO.

All of you fail.

Tab · Dec 25, 2007, 07:01 PM // 19:01

No. AoB does not require brains or skill to use. 40 armor is pointless and irrelevant - the most dangerous sources of damage ignore armor or do obscene amounts even after AoB is factored in.
That leaves your elite with a 33% speed boost - slightly useful, but at the cost of an elite that is up ~2/3 of the time, and holy damage, which is good in small parts of PvE and useless everywhere else.
The only reason to take AoB is you're too lazy to use anything else.

Splitisoda · Dec 25, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

/Fail.

AoB is under rated because most who junk it don't have the brains to figure out how to use it. -.-

+33% Speed Boost may be unescasarry, but I find it very refreshing for my playstyle. After beating campaigns seven + times by the time I used to get to beating it with my dervish, I didn't feel like sticking around to kill every mob in the area. AoB allowed me to run through many hard areas with ease. Combined with Eternal Aura it's an indefinete speed boost, which is, no excuse, awesome.

I also use it in PvP. Yeah, flame me for it. There are other ways for a dervish to remove hexes, remove conditions, and deal more damage without wasting your elite. The speed boost is /win in alliance battles when you're up against pesky kiters, and the armor bonus is something I notice immediatly. I've fought all the other avatars in AB and RA with Balthazar. 9/10 times I'll win because I know how to chain skills to make the avatar useful.

If you don't know how to utilize AoB, and complain that it's crap, you shouldn't be playing a dervish IMO.

All of you fail.

I ALREADY got flamed for thinking hes decent in one of my topics. It was in my build, and if im correct more then 100% of the people there either flamed me or called me a noob for using him.

Yes i do like the speed boost, it helps against kiters and makes it so i dont have to get any other skill. Also like others say the +40 armor can be met by that stance, but its only +24, and if u want conviction u cant use rush etc to catch up to kiters.

Sirugel Kai · Dec 25, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

I love how if you dont like the same avatar as someone else you "fail" at guildwars

glountz · Dec 25, 2007, 07:11 PM // 19:11

AoB fans, you just don't understand that GW is a team game. Even in PVE, what's the use of AoB when there is SY! spammers, wards, mass disruption from eles or rangers, and speed boost from paragons' shouts if you really need it? Seriously.
You love AoB because you always play alone. The fact is that AoB does bring nothing good in a team and I can't see a build featuring with success an AoB dervish.

Splitisoda · Dec 25, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by glountz

AoB fans, you just don't understand that GW is a team game. Even in PVE, what's the use of AoB when there is SY! spammers, wards, mass disruption from eles or rangers, and speed boost from paragons' shouts if you really need it? Seriously.
You love AoB because you always play alone. The fact is that AoB does bring nothing good in a team and I can't see a build featuring with success an AoB dervish.

So your just now saying really we dont need any self heal, all we need is to run in with an IAS and attack skills, ill just look up to the monks and let them deal with it, same with everyone else. And if your putting it that way, what use is melandru? A monk heals so much that max health wont even do any difference in pvp, and in pve, the monk will still be healing you.

glountz · Dec 25, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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Originally Posted by Splitisoda

So your just now saying really we dont need any self heal, all we need is to run in with an IAS and attack skills, ill just look up to the monks and let them deal with it, same with everyone else. And if your putting it that way, what use is melandru? A monk heals so much that max health wont even do any difference in pvp, and in pve, the monk will still be healing you.

Oh, why are you mentionning AoM? Did I EVER talk about it? Are you actually using AoM to explain WHY YOU USE AOB?
The fact is that AoM is a direct counter to blindbots in PvP. I will explain to you since you seem to lack basic knowledge. Blinding bots apply blind every 5 seconds. Blind remove all the melee pressure from your team. Removing blind by monk way is an energy sink and also is a very dangerous action. AoM actually allows you to apply melee pressure constantly by being immune to blind. But it also add constant pressure by also applying deep wound constantly, which easy spikes and lower heals. So it brings something to the team. AoB bring nothing to the team. Your dervish is easily countered, ant its bonus is not team based.

Bah. I won't argue, just continue to play with your bad builds.

Sirugel Kai · Dec 25, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by glountz

Oh, why are you mentionning AoM? Did I EVER talk about it? Are you actually using AoM to explain WHY YOU USE AOB?
The fact is that AoM is a direct counter to blindbots in PvP. I will explain to you since you seem to lack basic knowledge. Blinding bots apply blind every 5 seconds. Blind remove all the melee pressure from your team. Removing blind by monk way is an energy sink and also is a very dangerous action. AoM actually allows you to apply melee pressure constantly by being immune to blind. But it also add constant pressure by also applying deep wound constantly, which easy spikes and lower heals. So it brings something to the team. AoB bring nothing to the team. Your dervish is easily countered, ant its bonus is not team based.

Bah. I won't argue, just continue to play with your bad builds.

as far as im aware you havnt seen theyre builds

Splitisoda · Dec 25, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

He/She has seen mine. Which i think went more then 2 pages of flames.

You can't see me · Dec 25, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

I'll keep my bad builds, thank you.

My bad builds cut through mobs while keeping me alive.
My bad builds allow me to solo shrines in AB with no healers around.
My bad builds allow me to fly through 90% of the areas of the game.
My bad builds allow me to chop down kiters.
My bad builds have proven themselves against the other avatars time and time again.
My bad builds utilize combinations and skill chains you've probably never thought of.
My bad builds allow me to solo many mobs with no healers.
My bad builds last longer than any other avatar.
My bad builds keep me alive.
My bad builds kill my enemies.
My bad builds would cut through yours like a scythe through butter.

Glountz, you can keep your opinion. All I can say is that you obviously have not looked any further than the skill description. I'm done here. The rest of you can think what you want, but if you don't know how to work AoB to your advantage, then you're less competition for those of us that can.

street peddler · Dec 25, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

most crap players see the +40 armor and just fall in love. just bring [skill]conviction[/skill] if you want more armor so bad, youre most likely bringing obscene amounts of healing anyway.

Sirugel Kai · Dec 25, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Imo healing regen is almost the only healing youll need for most builds =x

You can't see me · Dec 25, 2007, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by street peddler

most crap players see the +40 armor and just fall in love. just bring [skill]conviction[/skill] if you want more armor so bad, youre most likely bringing obscene amounts of healing anyway.

Ever occur to you that you can combine the two? Plus, you can get the +3 regen without having to rely on an enchantment while still getting the benefit of armor from Balthazar.

~ Dan ~ · Dec 25, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by Splitisoda

I ALREADY got flamed for thinking hes decent in one of my topics. It was in my build, and if im correct more then 100% of the people there either flamed me or called me a noob for using him.

There's a reason for that.

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Originally Posted by Sirugel Kai

I love how if you dont like the same avatar as someone else you "fail" at guildwars

This is not about preference. If you like using a complete dogshit skill, how does that mean you don't fail at GW?

I strongly recommend Izzy remove AoB from the game. Maybe 80% of dervs would wake up and use a good elite. Saying that they would prob just turn to AoG. Shame Izzy would never do that though. Shame.

Chicken Ftw · Dec 25, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

My bad builds utilize combinations and skill chains you've probably never thought of.

Examples of these leet combos plz. Coming from someone who uses AoB, I'm not expecting much.

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My bad builds would cut through yours like a scythe through butter.

lulz. Someone using almost ANY other elite already has an advantage over your builds.

AoB is shit, always has been shit, always will be shit, and only belongs on bad players' bars. I don't care what other skills you bring, if you're bringing AoB, you've already gimped yourself by bringing one of the worst derv elites. The run speed is really inconsequential in PvE, the armor boost is unnecessary (wtb decent backline so I can concentrate on damage, you know, a derv's job?), and the holy damage is a joke (except vs undead). Even then, if you're exploiting undead, bring a smiter instead.

Rest of your post can be summed up best by... ಠ_ಠ

Shuuda · Dec 25, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Avatar of Malandru is best. My proof, it is used most in GvG (the highest level of play).

/Request lock for thread as any arguement against Melandru will be incorrect, and their ignorance of fact will turn this into a flamefest.

Tab · Dec 25, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

It seems that the Dervish forum is locked in a perpetual cycle:
1. Avatar of Balthazar is not bad thread
2. Why Avatar of balthazar is bad thread
3. Troll thread
4. Bad thread
5. Troll thread
6. Back to step 1

Sirugel Kai · Dec 25, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Avatar of Malandru is best. My proof, it is used most in GvG (the highest level of play).

/Request lock for thread as any arguement against Melandru will be incorrect, and their ignorance of fact will turn this into a flamefest.

Yes, becasue our opinions do not matter at all

Chicken Ftw · Dec 25, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets

It seems that the Dervish forum is locked in a perpetual cycle:
1. Avatar of Balthazar is not bad thread
2. Why Avatar of balthazar is bad thread
3. Troll thread
4. Bad thread
5. Troll thread
6. Back to step 1

lulz. Truth. Arguably though, numbers 3 and 4 describe #1, and eventually #2 when the scrubs invade that thread.