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The.D0pefish · Dec 06, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04

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The ONLY sustainable farm that will continue to hold value will be the ecto/shards farm.

100% signed

when i want to farm money i only go for uw/fow...
otherwhise i just "farm" for the challenge.

So sry about me getting personal, just forget about that

Maybe the Creator of this Thread should write "Solo-Builds" and not farm builds, which makes a big difference imo...
just tell ppl. that this thread isn't about big money and just for ppl. who have fun beeing creative and thinking outside the box...
I hope that might help

ReZDoGG · Dec 06, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

This is also another build I had made awhile back, but it is also limited to what it can farm. It can only farm Melee enemies of course, using Gladz Defense. Again, only place I tested it was Jade Brotherhood Knights.

Profession: P/W

Template Code: OQGiUxmMRXoywXgXEAEXeX6jBA

Attributes:

Command: 12+1+3 (16)
Tactics: 12

Equipment: Any Max armor with Vigor rune, Stalwart Insigs and acouple Attunement runes, and if you want.. 2 Radiant Insigs. Any spear with +5 energy, 10% Furious, +30hp... and a Command shield with +30hp and -5 (20%).

Skill Set:

[card]Gladiator's Defense[/card][card]Protector's Defense[/card][card]Bonetti's Defense[/card][card]Disciplined Stance[/card][wiki]Mental Block[/wiki] [card]Healing Signet[/card][wiki]Dwarven Stability[/wiki][card]"Never Surrender!"[/card]

Usage:

-Approach Enemies
-Cast Dwarven Stability
-Use Gladiator's Defense, then immediately Protector's Defense... this will allow to stack them for almost 100% blocking, and will trigger Gladz every hit attempt by enemies.
-Attack an enemy to charge up your adren for Bonneti's
-Use Disciplined Stance soon as Gladz wears off
-Use Heal Sig or Never Surrender when needed
-Use Mental Block when Disciplined ends
-Use Heal Sig or Never Surrender
-Use Bonetti's a few seconds before Gladz is recharged
-Use Dwarven, then hit Gladz and Protectors quickly
-Repeat Until dead.

dont feel no pain · Dec 06, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

This is also another build I had made awhile back, but it is also limited to what it can farm. It can only farm Melee enemies of course, using Gladz Defense. Again, only place I tested it was Jade Brotherhood Knights.

Profession: P/W

Template Code: OQGiUxmMRXoywXgXEAEXeX6jBA

Attributes:

Command: 12+1+3 (16)
Tactics: 12

Equipment: Any Max armor with Vigor rune, Stalwart Insigs and acouple Attunement runes, and if you want.. 2 Radiant Insigs. Any spear with +5 energy, 10% Furious, +30hp... and a Command shield with +30hp and -5 (20%).

Skill Set:

[card]Gladiator's Defense[/card][card]Protector's Defense[/card][card]Bonetti's Defense[/card][card]Disciplined Stance[/card][wiki]Mental Block[/wiki] [card]Healing Signet[/card][wiki]Dwarven Stability[/wiki][card]"Never Surrender!"[/card]

Usage:

-Approach Enemies
-Cast Dwarven Stability
-Use Gladiator's Defense, then immediately Protector's Defense... this will allow to stack them for almost 100% blocking, and will trigger Gladz every hit attempt by enemies.
-Attack an enemy to charge up your adren for Bonneti's
-Use Disciplined Stance soon as Gladz wears off
-Use Heal Sig or Never Surrender when needed
-Use Mental Block when Disciplined ends
-Use Heal Sig or Never Surrender
-Use Bonetti's a few seconds before Gladz is recharged
-Use Dwarven, then hit Gladz and Protectors quickly
-Repeat Until dead.

All that and 1 para skill and no use of leadership.... ehh?

creative, buy probably more effective with w/p

ReZDoGG · Dec 06, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

All that and 1 para skill and no use of leadership.... ehh?

creative, buy probably more effective with w/p

Yeah I know. hehe. But only thing I could think of to use... sure you could use some more para skills, but nothing that would help a great deal. Warrior with similar build is definately better, having Ranger as 2nd profession... and use SQ. I actually got a Warrior build with Gladz and Protectors to work in HM once upon a time ago... but I really don't bother with them. But hey, a para can kill adjacent enemies at once... other than using spear builds. I am sure a P/E with some Earth skills would work also....

Tyla · Dec 06, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

hrmm....isnt pspirit a staple skill for most monk bars....?

Mr Emu · Dec 06, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Hmm, perhaps my earlier post had some merit.
[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill][skill]Riposte[/skill][skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill][skill]Defensive Stance[/skill][skill]"Finish Him"[/skill]
Usage: Knock up some aatxes/graspings/some other UW shit

Skinny Corpse · Dec 07, 2007, 12:27 AM // 00:27

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

I am sure a P/E with some Earth skills would work also....

Now THAT is something I'd love to see!
I'm horrible at making builds that actually don't fail miserably so we're all
better off I don't even attempt it.

But a solo Paragon would be a lot of fun.

*edit*
ops, just read a previous by DFNP.. nice

Antithesis · Dec 07, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

max_rules posted a couple of usable and interesting FoW / UW builds a few months ago -

W/D UW Solo
D/X FoW Beach Solo

Koning posted a creative W/D UW Solo build back in April -

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Defy Pain[/skill][skill]Counterattack[/skill][skill]Power Attack[/skill][skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill][skill]Rending Aura[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill]

I use a slight variant of Koning's build to farm the UW (swap Power Attack for Whirlwind Attack) and as the basis for my PvE Warrior that i use with Heroes & Hench - swap Rending Aura for [skill=text]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] and Dolyak for "Save Yourselves!". It's fun, fast and effective, hits hard, has solid energy & adrenal management, good party support and a big self-heal.

All props to max_rulez and Koning

Readsforpleasure · Dec 07, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

max_rules posted a couple of usable and interesting FoW / UW builds a few months ago -

W/D UW Solo
D/X FoW Beach Solo

Koning posted a creative W/D UW Solo build back in April -

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Defy Pain[/skill][skill]Counterattack[/skill][skill]Power Attack[/skill][skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill][skill]Rending Aura[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill]

I use a slight variant of Koning's build to farm the UW (swap Power Attack for Whirlwind Attack) and as the basis for my Warrior's PvE build (swap Rending Aura for [skill=text]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] and Dolyak for "Save Yourselves!"). It's fun, fast and effective, hits hard, has solid energy & adrenal management, good party support and a big self-heal.

All props to max_rulez and Koning

Is this a solo farm? If it is, then "Save Yourselves" would be useless.

A Leprechaun · Dec 07, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Class: W/N
Name: Headbutt Farmer
Farm Loaction: Sunqua Vale (Exit from Shing Jea Monestary)
Creatures Farm: Mantids (Drones and Monitors)
HM: Yes

Wepon: Zealous is needed.
Build:
[skill]Headbutt[/skill]
[skill]Plague Touch[/skill]
[skill]Sever Artery[/skill]
[skill]Gash[/skill]
[skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill]
[skill]Flail[/skill]
[skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill]
[skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill]

Attributes:
Strength -14 to 15
Swordsmanship - 14 to 15
Tactics - Whatever is left over

Usage:
I havent done this in a while, but its easy to work out usage for your self.
Because of the Drones powerful Deathly Swarm you cant take on many at once, and seeing as it can only kill one at once, dont aggro more than 1 drone +1 monitor.
Use Headbutt when you start attacking them, followed directly by Plague Touch to give them 19 to 20 seconds of dazed, now use Dolyak Signet and Flail to keep you alive and increase your attack speed (and thus the rate at which you foe in interupted.). Use your attacks and heal as appropriate. Re-Daze as soon as it wears off your target.
Its quite easy to work out and if you have any problems talk to me about it. I havent done this in ages so this guide might not be quite accurate.

Drops: Really not that much, just fun to use a headbutt farming build, your killing them 1 at a time in HM so you do still get some golds.

I hope you like it, there would be 1001 other, better builds for this but not many of them would be using Headbutt ^^.

~A Leprechaun~

ReZDoGG · Dec 07, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Anyone see my Necro build from the bottom of the 4th page by the way? heh. I noticed there was arguments before and after the post, so wasn't sure if anyone seen it. I also made a video for it. It's actually kind of decent build, and could possibly work in more areas. I was goin to try it with Luxon Sins, since there are groups of 3-4... but turns out you can't get that quest if you did the 10k luxon quest... plus I probably did it for luxon faction anyways.

Skinny Corpse · Dec 07, 2007, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

Anyone see my Necro build from the bottom of the 4th page by the way? heh. I noticed there was arguments before and after the post, so wasn't sure if anyone seen it. I also made a video for it. It's actually kind of decent build, and could possibly work in more areas. I was goin to try it with Luxon Sins, since there are groups of 3-4... but turns out you can't get that quest if you did the 10k luxon quest... plus I probably did it for luxon faction anyways.

I saw it and I'm about to try it.
I was thinking of swithing Physical Res. to Elemental Res. and try it on nagas.. you
think that would work?

Archaic · Dec 07, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Yes! YES! Now people are getting the idea. I want this to be a discussion on builds, not really anything to do with farming money, or getting rich.

So keep the builds coming.

ReZDoGG · Dec 07, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse

I saw it and I'm about to try it.
I was thinking of swithing Physical Res. to Elemental Res. and try it on nagas.. you
think that would work?

I am not sure how it will work on casters... unless you can get them close together, and pull the melee enemies towards them. I was also able to take out some Vermins in NM... one group at a time, so it handles degen...

Ele would actually be good to get energy also... and that could replace price of failure, and possibly acouple others. All in all, it is kind of fun to try out... but obviously wouldn't be used to make money.

Skinny Corpse · Dec 07, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

I am not sure how it will work on casters... unless you can get them close together, and pull the melee enemies towards them. I was also able to take out some Vermins in NM... one group at a time, so it handles degen...

Ele would actually be good to get energy also... and that could replace price of failure, and possibly acouple others. All in all, it is kind of fun to try out... but obviously wouldn't be used to make money.

Oh, my bad.. I meant kappas.

It just for the fun of trying something new.. and who wants money anyway.

MisterB · Dec 07, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

[skill]Protective Bond[/skill]@13 Protection
[skill]Storm Chaser[/skill]@12 or more
Dwarven Stability
5 slots left for damage and healing
Farm Elementals.
Win.

edit: Should note that this assumes hard mode, otherwise add [skill=text]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill], too.

afya · Dec 07, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

I have two build ideas. One works in NM for sure, but not yet in HM. Another one may work too. However, my acc. is banned with no reason given. I'm now working to get my acc unbanned. I'll work on the new build as soon as I get my acc back.

Pyro maniac · Dec 07, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

[skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Resurrection signet[/skill]

Farm Spot: Random Arena's
Drops: Balthazar Faction
Usage: Can be turned in to Zaishen Keys, wich chest can drop eternal blades/voltiac spears

Antithesis · Dec 08, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Readsforpleasure

Is this a solo farm? If it is, then "Save Yourselves" would be useless.

max_rulez and Koning's builds are solo. The variant i described that includes Watch Yourselves and Save Yourselves is obviously for PvE teams, hence the 'good party support' comment.
Ambiguity noted, post updated