Curse

Tyla · Dec 02, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

[skill]Wastrel's Collapse[/skill]
any ideas to make this skill useable to the least?

EDIT:spelt collapse wrong rofl /doh

ensoriki · Dec 02, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Spell. If target foe is not using a skill he is knocked down, 8 recharge (Hey its elite!)
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Hex Spell. Target foe is hexed with Wastrels Collapse for 5 seconds, when this spell ends target foe is knocked down.This hex ends prematurely if target foe uses a skill.
If this hex ends prematurely all nearby allies (your allies, including you) are knocked down for 3 seconds and all foes within earshot are knocked down.
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Hex spell: Target foe is hexed with wastrels collapse for 5 seconds. If target foe uses a skill, that foe is knocked down and that skill is disabled for 15 seconds.
recharge 10.

BlackSephir · Dec 02, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44

Or just make it elite Mark of Instability.
Wastrel's Collapse- Crit Strikes, 10e 1c, 10r, elite hex
Target foe if hexed with Wastrel's Collapse. For 10 seconds, next 1...2...3 times that foe is hit by a dual attack, that foe is knocked down.

fireflyry · Dec 02, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

That would so rule.

Never happen though.

Made In Ascalon · Dec 02, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

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Hex Spell. Target foe is hexed with Wastrels Collapse for 5 seconds, when this spell ends target foe is knocked down.This hex ends prematurely if target foe uses a skill.
If this hex ends prematurely all nearby allies (your allies, including you) are knocked down for 3 seconds and all foes within earshot are knocked down.
________
Hex spell: Target foe is hexed with wastrels collapse for 5 seconds. If target foe uses a skill, that foe is knocked down and that skill is disabled for 15 seconds.
recharge 10.

These fixes are crazy.
I like them

ensoriki · Dec 02, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Or just make it elite Mark of Instability.
Wastrel's Collapse- Crit Strikes, 10e 1c, 10r, elite hex
Target foe if hexed with Wastrel's Collapse. For 10 seconds, next 1...2...3 times that foe is hit by a dual attack, that foe is knocked down.

Would need a name rechange.

Back to Shameful waste (what it seriously should be called)

or

Mark of Collapse

yum · Dec 02, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

Spell. If target foe is not using a skill he is knocked down, 8 recharge (Hey its elite!)
___
Hex Spell. Target foe is hexed with Wastrels Collapse for 5 seconds, when this spell ends target foe is knocked down.This hex ends prematurely if target foe uses a skill.
If this hex ends prematurely all nearby allies (your allies, including you) are knocked down for 3 seconds and all foes within earshot are knocked down.
________
Hex spell: Target foe is hexed with wastrels collapse for 5 seconds. If target foe uses a skill, that foe is knocked down and that skill is disabled for 15 seconds.
recharge 10.

Either stupid or overpowered.

Why it should be made to be viable?

Tyla · Dec 02, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by yum

Why it should be made to be viable?

tell me the ammount of viable elites sins already have first - about 4?

street peddler · Dec 02, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

remove the 'ends prematurely if foe uses a skill' part and itll be usable.

BlackSephir · Dec 02, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by yum

Why it should be made to be viable?

I always thought the more viable, not overpowered skills = the better.

But I've been wrong before.

ensoriki · Dec 02, 2007, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by yum

Either stupid or overpowered.

Why it should be made to be viable?

uh maybe the second 1 >.>

3rd 1 is like an elite diversion unlinked

Also >.> Why not make the worst elite viable?

I dunno.

Under powered and overpowered are both bad, they both take away from variety.

Bowstring Badass · Dec 03, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Just take away the ends if they use a skill and it is useable...

Tyla · Dec 03, 2007, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Just take away the ends if they use a skill and it is useable...

or maybe put in "If this foe uses a skill this hex ends prematurely.when this hex ends,the foe is knocked down" or something,might imba but then they can mod the recharge

MercenaryK · Dec 03, 2007, 02:56 AM // 02:56

How about increase the hex duration, except it ends when struck by a lead/off-hand attack, and the foe is knocked down. If it lasts it's full duration the foe is knocked down.

ensoriki · Dec 03, 2007, 03:08 AM // 03:08

OR!

Name Change
Changed to
Deaths Roar
Deadly arts!

After 5 seconds all allies and Foes within earshot lose all stances and enchantments and are knocked down for 3 seconds.
You take lose 350.....120 hp (thus not damage and can't be mitigated) and suffer from exhaustion. All your spells are disabled for 12 seconds.
10 adrenaline no activation, 40 recharge.

As you can see >.> Crazy shit knock down >.>
And the HP loss takes a huge nose drive down >.>
Probably shouldn't have the damage

The description is wierd but um..... you have to be targeting a foe in half range to use it in the first place. As it removes all stances and enchantments, there is no Balanced stance or whatever stopping the KD

The sin also can't heal that damage loss right away.

Probably imba tho =P

or >.>
Same Desc as it currently has but.
When this hex ends, target foe is knocked down and loses 5 energy.
And the hex duration changed to 4 seconds >.>

Magikarp · Dec 03, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

its not worth fixing anyhow, but if they did, it should just be like:

5 energy 1/4 cast 1 sec recharge

target foe is knocked down for 4 seconds

lol jk. just remove the premature end part, make the recharge 15 seconds. fixed.

Arkantos · Dec 03, 2007, 05:04 AM // 05:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryK

How about increase the hex duration, except it ends when struck by a lead/off-hand attack, and the foe is knocked down. If it lasts it's full duration the foe is knocked down.

So it would pretty much be an elite Mark of Instability?

horseradish · Dec 03, 2007, 05:19 AM // 05:19

How about changing it to "Target foe is knocked down for x seconds"?

Targuil · Dec 03, 2007, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

The description is wierd but um..... you have to be targeting a foe in half range to use it in the first place. As it removes all stances and enchantments, there is no Balanced stance or whatever stopping the KD

Dolyak signet ftw!

Coloneh · Dec 03, 2007, 05:34 AM // 05:34

"elite hex spell: for 0...6 seconds if target foe uses a skill, that foe is knocked down"

if the foe waits it out nothing bad happens.