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blue.rellik · Dec 01, 2007, 02:50 AM // 02:50

DBS is a 'fun' elite, sure it's no Devastating or Backbreaker but really for Prophecies PvE it's fine. It works especially well against the Stone Summit monks and mursaat monks boss since they can't get their MoP/Orison spam off as well

Burst Cancel · Dec 01, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

The thing is, if you're using hammers it's really easy to keep Dolyak Riders and Mursaat Monks on their backs for the majority of the fight - which is a hell of a lot better than interrupting them.

A Leprechaun · Dec 01, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

I don't think Dolyak riders can be knocked down, I might be wrong.

~A Leprechaun~

Burst Cancel · Dec 01, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

I don't think Dolyak riders can be knocked down, I might be wrong.

~A Leprechaun~

Hmm, you're probably right there, now that I think about it. I haven't been in the southern shivers in months.

The Mursaat monks however ...

blue.rellik · Dec 02, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

The thing is, if you're using hammers it's really easy to keep Dolyak Riders and Mursaat Monks on their backs for the majority of the fight - which is a hell of a lot better than interrupting them.

As Lep said, Dolyak riders are pretty hard to knock down. Maybe if we were in a junundu

Also knockdown chains are awesome-fun but not letting anyone get off a spell and not be a ranger is even more fun. Only downside is that it's against the AI

Burst Cancel · Dec 02, 2007, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Against anything that can be knocked down, KD chains are far more effective at shutting down spellcasters than DBS is. Nevermind that it doesn't even last its recharge - there's the problem that you're only hitting once every 1.17 seconds, which frankly is a pretty big window to cast through.

Finally, it only takes one skill to shut down enemy monks in prophecies: Diversion.

blue.rellik · Dec 02, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44

*smashes head against a wall multiple times*

Arkantos · Dec 02, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48

If you want to interrupt something, wasting your elite slot on a skill that lasts about 1/3 of the recharge max hitting once every 1.17 seconds without being able to use attack skills is fail.

blue.rellik · Dec 02, 2007, 02:57 AM // 02:57

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

DBS is a 'fun' elite, sure it's no Devastating or Backbreaker but really for Prophecies PvE it's fine. It works especially well against the Stone Summit monks and mursaat monks boss since they can't get their MoP/Orison spam off as well

Reading is hard

Did I ever say DBS should replace Devastating/Backbreaker/Earthshaker? I don't think so. Did I say it was very effective? Nope. I was saying that it's fun (ie something different to use once in a while). Yes I'm not stupid to run this in PvP but this is Prophecies PvE, like the easiest of them all and a single build won't make much difference. Am I advocating the use of bad skills? I mean running the same skills over and over and over and over and over again does get boring eventually. No, I'm advocating the use of skills differently, since as someone else mentioned DBS combined with 'On your Knees' will recharge it. I mean bows are really for spiking and conditions but that won't stop me from making a DPS type build.

Crom The Pale · Dec 02, 2007, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

If you want to interrupt something, wasting your elite slot on a skill that lasts about 1/3 of the recharge max hitting once every 1.17 seconds without being able to use attack skills is fail.

With the right build you can keep Dwarven Battle Stance up 100% of the time and still have your knockdowns and spike dmg attacks.

There are quite a few foes that can not be knocked down and plenty of bosses. Being able to interupt them constantly is a benifit. This is not the best hammer war elite, but it can be very effective when used vs the right foes.

A Leprechaun · Dec 02, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

If you want to interrupt something, wasting your elite slot on a skill that lasts about 1/3 of the recharge max hitting once every 1.17 seconds without being able to use attack skills is fail.

Its 1/2 of the time anyway. Its a 20 second recharge. And being not up all the time means you can have an attack/KD chain in between uses.

~A Leprechaun~

ghostlyfenix · Dec 02, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

Use Tigers stance when DBS is down so you're always in an IAS, after DBS your chain will be charged, so go Mighty -> Bash -> Crushing. Lion's as heal or you could take Heal Sig instead, as you will be losing all adrenaline every now and again. As for your utility you could go with a Conjure for extra damage but that would mean you have a lot of energy skills, or you could take something like Mending Touch or "Watch Yourself".
Just a concept, I like the skill.

~A Leprechaun~

he asked for proph not factions.

anyways, frenzy is best ias with rush for cancel
and why waste on ias that has 30 sec recharge and wasting a elite spot, put in a more useful elite ...

A Leprechaun · Dec 02, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12

DBS has a 20 second recharge. Yeah sorry forgot about the only prophecies thing. Frenzy is ok but not great in PvE.

~A Leprechaun~