Dec 02, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33
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#21
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)
Profession: N/Mo
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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
You're seriously underestimating the power of knowing how to pull, bringing heroes/henches with good skill bars, and simply knowing how to play the game.
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Or he could just use Mending.
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Dec 02, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57
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#22
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: The German Order [GER]
Profession: N/
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright...you head on into slaver's exile and start taking on the 20 enemy mobs without a tank.
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Been there, done that. 0 tanks, 1 dead duncan.
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Dec 02, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14
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#23
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Alright...you head on into slaver's exile and start taking on the 20 enemy mobs without a tank.
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Been there, done that, with heroes. And before you mention another area, I've also done DoA Urgoz an Deep without a thank, kthx.
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In normal situations sure, no need for a tank....i dont tank all the time either. But in situations where mobs are just way too overpowered to allow the melee to hit the casters, such as slaver's exile for instance, a tank is 99.9% necessary, even with smart teams. Not everyone has advanced title tracks for lux/kurz, and the high adren cost for SY! doesn't allow for any prevention of the initial spike from PvE enemies.
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Wrong again. These 'smart' teams don't need shitty tanks. A team with a tank =/= smart team. PS a warrior, warrior runs in first for aggro, and then the warrior starts pounding the shit out of the enemies with his damage dealing bar (which is what a warriors for). That's what a smart team does, because they know how useless tanks are.
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If you've never seen a HH tank at work, you really dont know what you're talking about. In areas with massive enchantment strip...fine go with an obsi flesh tank. But areas without lots of enchant strip...HH is the way to go. Hell, I tanked hard mode lair of the snowmen with a HH build....and that's armor-ignoring spike damage central. then again, I needed a prot bonder to do it...but hey.
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You tanked HM LotS with a HH tank and you needed a bonder. I held aggro with just PS on me. Are you wearing ascalon armor? Because if you need a hh tank and a bonder, you're doing something wrong,
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Best defense is a good offense huh? Ok, I'll just put my warrior away and never use it because there's no need right? Besides, warriors have less dps than most caster classes.
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I would really like to see a caster build that has more dps then a dslash warrior.
Last edited by Arkantos; Dec 02, 2007 at 06:14 PM // 18:14..
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Dec 02, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57
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#24
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Forge Runner
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never use HH , the recharge is wayy to long
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Dec 02, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58
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#25
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: Daydreaming Cookies
Profession: Me/
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Personally I prefer HH tanking, sometimes i'm forced to change to the gay obsi flesh build which I never liked it makes you move slow and enemies will simply target someone else, I'm the tank I want to take the damage not them
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If you've never seen a HH tank at work, you really dont know what you're talking about. In areas with massive enchantment strip...fine go with an obsi flesh tank. But areas without lots of enchant strip...HH is the way to go. Hell, I tanked hard mode lair of the snowmen with a HH build....and that's armor-ignoring spike damage central. then again, I needed a prot bonder to do it...but hey.
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Best defense is a good offense huh? Ok, I'll just put my warrior away and never use it because there's no need right? Besides, warriors have less dps than most caster classes.
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Thanks for all the funny quotes people!
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Dec 02, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04
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#26
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: TW
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright...you head on into slaver's exile and start taking on the 20 enemy mobs without a tank.
In normal situations sure, no need for a tank....i dont tank all the time either. But in situations where mobs are just way too overpowered to allow the melee to hit the casters, such as slaver's exile for instance, a tank is 99.9% necessary, even with smart teams. Not everyone has advanced title tracks for lux/kurz, and the high adren cost for SY! doesn't allow for any prevention of the initial spike from PvE enemies.
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How to Tank Slavers:
1. Find a warrior.
2. Put Protective Spirit on him.
3. Kill all the enemies.
I cleared Slavers' H/H with DSlash, all you need is aggro control, not tanking.
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Dec 02, 2007, 06:14 PM // 18:14
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#27
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: [BAAA] guest me NOW
Profession: Mo/
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is it bad that i loled in RL at this thread?
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Dec 02, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24
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#28
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: TW
Profession: W/
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Laughing means you understand what a joke most of these pro-HH posters are.
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Dec 02, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35
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#29
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I
is it bad that i loled in RL at this thread?
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I hope not, cause I've been laughing at it for a few days now.
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Dec 02, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44
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#30
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...
Guild: Purple Lingerie - :D
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Sad people still use this skill on warriors? lol
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Dec 03, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48
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#31
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright...you head on into slaver's exile and start taking on the 20 enemy mobs without a tank.
In normal situations sure, no need for a tank....i dont tank all the time either. But in situations where mobs are just way too overpowered to allow the melee to hit the casters, such as slaver's exile for instance, a tank is 99.9% necessary, even with smart teams. Not everyone has advanced title tracks for lux/kurz, and the high adren cost for SY! doesn't allow for any prevention of the initial spike from PvE enemies.
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[skill]Frozen Soil[/skill] + EotN consumables = laff Stone Summit mobs
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Dec 03, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06
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#32
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Krytan Explorer
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This thread makes Chuck Norris cry....
Yes it is that bad.
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Dec 03, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00
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#33
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
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I killed Thommis yesterday with just a regular triple chop axe build. With good healers behind you it's cake. Ofc I often tanked with my warrior (It's too damn easy with all the blockable doors/corners) but you DON'T NEED A TANK BUILD to do the job. a normal warrior does just fine. Tanks are baed, don't bother with them.
Last edited by bungusmaximus; Dec 03, 2007 at 07:03 AM // 07:03..
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Dec 03, 2007, 10:39 AM // 10:39
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#34
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: StP
Profession: R/
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This thread is full of LOL.
And everytime a wammo casts Healing Hands or leaves an outpost without an attack skill on his bar Balthazar kills a puppy
Please think of the puppies ty.
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Dec 03, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26
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#35
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Dec 03, 2007, 01:54 PM // 13:54
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#36
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)
Profession: N/Mo
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Balthazar, I pray you reconsider. Take out your rage on iguanas or something. SAVE THE PUPPIES!
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Dec 03, 2007, 02:04 PM // 14:04
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#37
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: in my house
Guild: The Arctic Maruarders [TAM]
Profession: A/
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their is only 1 reasons not to use healing hands as a tank elite
1.)Bad Recharge
personally my friend wouldnt let you join his FoW group unless you had his specific build the tank was a healing hands tank.. it worked well and could hold aggro better than the slow Obsidian tank.
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Dec 03, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56
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#38
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: :D:D
Profession: D/W
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the only thing is...the alternatives are so much better
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Dec 03, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59
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#39
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: StP
Profession: R/
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Omg Vulkanyaz, thats awesome LMAO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Panda
their is only 1 reasons not to use healing hands as a tank elite
1.)Bad Recharge
personally my friend wouldnt let you join his FoW group unless you had his specific build the tank was a healing hands tank.. it worked well and could hold aggro better than the slow Obsidian tank.
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Only really bad FoW teams need a tank.
Last edited by Lykan; Dec 03, 2007 at 09:04 PM // 21:04..
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Dec 03, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58
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#40
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Panda
personally my friend wouldnt let you join his FoW group unless you had his specific build the tank was a healing hands tank.. it worked well and could hold aggro better than the slow Obsidian tank.
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Your friend should uninstall Guild Wars, imo.
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