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Old Dec 04, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57   #1
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Arrow Yanssassin-the comeback!

We all remember the good kd-shutdown capability of the Yanssassin, coupled with nice damage.

However, due to recent nerfs, because the Yanssassin was deemd too powerful, this build no longer works ( BLS-> Lead attack; HoTo has reduced damage )


This left me with mixed feelings...my favourite build got nerfed, but I now know it was a good build because it was so overpowered it needed a nerf.

I decided to strike back with the following build;
I added some new skills from EotN, and voila, the knocklock capabilities of the Yanssassin are improved! However, you do have less damage.

[skill]Mark of Instability[/skill]
[skill]Black Mantis Thrust[/skill]
[skill]Exhausting Assault[/skill]
Falling Lotus Strike
Trampling Ox
[skill]Moebius Strike[/skill]
[skill]Horns of the Ox[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

You do not need MoI to start a chain, simply go BMT-EA-MS-HoTo-MS or FLS-TO-MS or FLS etc.


If this is a great success, expect videos .



~ Yanman
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The Assassin Godfather.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 05:33 PM // 17:33   #2
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My basic insight in battles says that you won't survive long enough to get halfways through the chain with this build.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34   #3
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I suppose for [skill]Exhausting Assault[/skill] being a dual attack it has two chances to interupt and possibly cause Exhaustion (only once though) right?
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50   #4
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Nothing new, I've seen this build and similar even being run in Aspenwood....

Thats not to say I don't like it.

Encounted a SP sin or two running 'BLS - EA -BSS- TF' too...

Any reference to a sin build beginning with 'Yana..' immediately makes me cringe...

Can we stop that now please. You are not the Godfather. You did not think of anything that somebody else did not. You simply posted it first.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18   #5
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My basic insight in battles says that you won't survive long enough to get halfways through the chain with this build.
That's why your insight is only "basic". I survive because of positioning and shutdown.


Oh, and that signature is just to piss people off... I have not made up those things.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25   #6
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Not made of gold, but decent build.

From 0(worst) to 10(best) I'd say 6.5
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:26 PM // 18:26   #7
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You gotta add then that you need leet interrupting skills to pull that off or you're toast & bacon. I do think it's rather deadly tho, but it's not a build I would directly use myself. It's kinda gimmicky imho. Positive point is that you can at least skip attacks in case your mark of instability gets removed.
I would drop HoTo for assassin's remedy, the more chance you get to pull the combo off, the more chance you get to reach moebius. In that case you can just repeat the combo instad of using such a dreadingly long chain.

And the trolling is his sense of humour, and sense of humour is good.

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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27   #8
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So I heard that using an entire skillbar on a bad chain was good.
c/d?
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31   #9
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Or because SP - BLS combo was ripping up PvP left right and center.

Yanman has got to be the biggest retard ever. Period.
lol i herd op used sarcasum

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So I heard that using an entire skillbar on a bad chain was good.
c/d?
Confirm, on a bad chain. This chain is pretty solid. The only thing that can fail to work is falling lotus strike.

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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31   #10
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Funny build Yan.
Hopefully it works.
I do like the "you're not casting build better, but that's me"


Too bad no one here knows you or your guild history, bunch of scrubs they are.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32   #11
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Another solid build from Yan, I'll be sure to try this out (putting in Twisting Fangs instead of HoTO though)
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #12
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I don't get hoto's use, if your target's crippled wouldn't trampling ox do the trick?
If crippling gets removed there is a big chance your target will get healed anyway, screwing up the chain...

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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #13
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No snares, no speedbuff, no shadowstep capabilities ... So its useless in gvg/ab/ha.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41   #14
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Yeah but you want hoto ms for uber pwnage, and usually you wouldn't have your target below 50% when you hit your first moebius.


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No snares, no speedbuff, no shadowstep capabilities ... So its useless in gvg/ab/ha.
I said this was a Yanssassin remake. The original build didn't have this either. Your kd's are your snare, somehow

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Old Dec 04, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44   #15
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No snares
Orly?

HOTO is pretty good if cripple gets removed and if the arn't below 50% when you hit them, more knockdowns=more pressrure.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11   #16
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plenty of snares. Unless KD no longer counts for snaring...
Stick lack of tele to them is not a fav. but still looks pretty solid.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #17
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[skill]Shield Bash[/skill]

It's a strong combo, but it's worse then the sprison build, at least they just packed half of their bar with attacks.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #18
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What the hell is Yanssassin? You mean the SP sin that some people started using by themselves (it's just so obvious that a hex + shadowstep was going to be overused)? Oh, funny thing... I heard of the Yanssassin name just now.

Siphon Speed -> Black Spider Strike -> Horns of the Ox -> Falling Lotus -> Twisting Fangs -> Moebius Strike is superior to this build. It has a snare and more constant and faster rechargeable hex.
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #19
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lol looks like he was just messing around with this build, it's not bad not great but could be fun for pissing people on in RA
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Old Dec 04, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #20
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What the hell is Yanssassin? You mean the SP sin that some people started using by themselves (it's just so obvious that a hex + shadowstep was going to be overused)? Oh, funny thing... I heard of the Yanssassin name just now.

Siphon Speed -> Black Spider Strike -> Horns of the Ox -> Falling Lotus -> Twisting Fangs -> Moebius Strike is superior to this build. It has a snare and more constant and faster rechargeable hex.
I don't think relying on bad positioning from your enemy counts as more constant...


btw, Yanssassin is not a SP sin....

http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&q=yanssassin&meta= 91 hits!

( You will find the db-ms version, Yangansin though )


http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...t-3072446.html

This is the original build.


And please, can people stop making ignorant posts about my superiority...It's pretty obvious for those that understand basic sarcasm.
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