Dec 04, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57
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#1
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Yanssassin-the comeback!
We all remember the good kd-shutdown capability of the Yanssassin, coupled with nice damage.
However, due to recent nerfs, because the Yanssassin was deemd too powerful, this build no longer works ( BLS-> Lead attack; HoTo has reduced damage )
This left me with mixed feelings...my favourite build got nerfed, but I now know it was a good build because it was so overpowered it needed a nerf.
I decided to strike back with the following build;
I added some new skills from EotN, and voila, the knocklock capabilities of the Yanssassin are improved! However, you do have less damage.
[skill]Mark of Instability[/skill]
[skill]Black Mantis Thrust[/skill]
[skill]Exhausting Assault[/skill]
Falling Lotus Strike
Trampling Ox
[skill]Moebius Strike[/skill]
[skill]Horns of the Ox[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
You do not need MoI to start a chain, simply go BMT-EA-MS-HoTo-MS or FLS-TO-MS or FLS etc.
If this is a great success, expect videos .
~ Yanman
'he knows his shit' The Assassin Godfather.
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Dec 04, 2007, 05:33 PM // 17:33
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#2
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Fortitudine Vicimus
Profession: E/Me
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My basic insight in battles says that you won't survive long enough to get halfways through the chain with this build.
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Dec 04, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34
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#3
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2007
Guild: What A Mess
Profession: W/N
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I suppose for [skill]Exhausting Assault[/skill] being a dual attack it has two chances to interupt and possibly cause Exhaustion (only once though) right?
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Dec 04, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50
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#4
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: ..My home away from home..
Guild: Currently looking ~
Profession: N/
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Nothing new, I've seen this build and similar even being run in Aspenwood....
Thats not to say I don't like it.
Encounted a SP sin or two running 'BLS - EA -BSS- TF' too...
Any reference to a sin build beginning with 'Yana..' immediately makes me cringe...
Can we stop that now please. You are not the Godfather. You did not think of anything that somebody else did not. You simply posted it first.
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18
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#5
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celadriel
My basic insight in battles says that you won't survive long enough to get halfways through the chain with this build.
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That's why your insight is only "basic". I survive because of positioning and shutdown.
Oh, and that signature is just to piss people off... I have not made up those things.
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25
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#6
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lahti, Finland
Profession: W/
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Not made of gold, but decent build.
From 0(worst) to 10(best) I'd say 6.5
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:26 PM // 18:26
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#7
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
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You gotta add then that you need leet interrupting skills to pull that off or you're toast & bacon. I do think it's rather deadly tho, but it's not a build I would directly use myself. It's kinda gimmicky imho. Positive point is that you can at least skip attacks in case your mark of instability gets removed.
I would drop HoTo for assassin's remedy, the more chance you get to pull the combo off, the more chance you get to reach moebius. In that case you can just repeat the combo instad of using such a dreadingly long chain.
And the trolling is his sense of humour, and sense of humour is good.
Last edited by bungusmaximus; Dec 04, 2007 at 06:29 PM // 18:29..
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27
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#8
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a bridge
Guild: Team Quitter [QQ]
Profession: Mo/
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So I heard that using an entire skillbar on a bad chain was good.
c/d?
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31
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#9
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Or because SP - BLS combo was ripping up PvP left right and center.
Yanman has got to be the biggest retard ever. Period.
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lol i herd op used sarcasum
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
So I heard that using an entire skillbar on a bad chain was good.
c/d?
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Confirm, on a bad chain. This chain is pretty solid. The only thing that can fail to work is falling lotus strike.
Last edited by Yanman.be; Dec 04, 2007 at 06:34 PM // 18:34..
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31
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#10
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Funny build Yan.
Hopefully it works.
I do like the "you're not casting build better, but that's me"
Too bad no one here knows you or your guild history, bunch of scrubs they are.
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32
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#11
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2006
Guild: Guildless
Profession: A/
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Another solid build from Yan, I'll be sure to try this out (putting in Twisting Fangs instead of HoTO though)
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37
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#12
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: By the Luxon Scavenger
Guild: The Mentalists [THPK]
Profession: N/
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I don't get hoto's use, if your target's crippled wouldn't trampling ox do the trick?
If crippling gets removed there is a big chance your target will get healed anyway, screwing up the chain...
Last edited by Turbobusa; Dec 04, 2007 at 06:40 PM // 18:40..
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40
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#13
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Clan Union [Uni]
Profession: W/
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No snares, no speedbuff, no shadowstep capabilities ... So its useless in gvg/ab/ha.
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41
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#14
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Yeah but you want hoto ms for uber pwnage, and usually you wouldn't have your target below 50% when you hit your first moebius.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draak
No snares, no speedbuff, no shadowstep capabilities ... So its useless in gvg/ab/ha.
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I said this was a Yanssassin remake. The original build didn't have this either. Your kd's are your snare, somehow
Last edited by Yanman.be; Dec 04, 2007 at 06:44 PM // 18:44..
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Dec 04, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44
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#15
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!
Guild: looking for one :p
Profession: A/D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Draak
No snares
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Orly?
HOTO is pretty good if cripple gets removed and if the arn't below 50% when you hit them, more knockdowns=more pressrure.
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Dec 04, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11
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#16
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sardelec yelling at Tenshi
Guild: Angels Of Strife
Profession: E/
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plenty of snares. Unless KD no longer counts for snaring...
Stick lack of tele to them is not a fav. but still looks pretty solid.
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Dec 04, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36
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#17
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Desert Nomad
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[skill]Shield Bash[/skill]
It's a strong combo, but it's worse then the sprison build, at least they just packed half of their bar with attacks.
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Dec 04, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54
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#18
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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What the hell is Yanssassin? You mean the SP sin that some people started using by themselves (it's just so obvious that a hex + shadowstep was going to be overused)? Oh, funny thing... I heard of the Yanssassin name just now.
Siphon Speed -> Black Spider Strike -> Horns of the Ox -> Falling Lotus -> Twisting Fangs -> Moebius Strike is superior to this build. It has a snare and more constant and faster rechargeable hex.
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Dec 04, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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#19
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sardelec yelling at Tenshi
Guild: Angels Of Strife
Profession: E/
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lol looks like he was just messing around with this build, it's not bad not great but could be fun for pissing people on in RA
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Dec 04, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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#20
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
What the hell is Yanssassin? You mean the SP sin that some people started using by themselves (it's just so obvious that a hex + shadowstep was going to be overused)? Oh, funny thing... I heard of the Yanssassin name just now.
Siphon Speed -> Black Spider Strike -> Horns of the Ox -> Falling Lotus -> Twisting Fangs -> Moebius Strike is superior to this build. It has a snare and more constant and faster rechargeable hex.
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I don't think relying on bad positioning from your enemy counts as more constant...
btw, Yanssassin is not a SP sin....
http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&q=yanssassin&meta= 91 hits!
( You will find the db-ms version, Yangansin though )
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...t-3072446.html
This is the original build.
And please, can people stop making ignorant posts about my superiority...It's pretty obvious for those that understand basic sarcasm.
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