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Old Nov 19, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50   #21
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I believe GameCam is a better alternative for vids. Or Fraps. I don't use either (yet), but a large number of the vids I saw are made by those two.

Would this be possible for a Rt/W ? Or is the Strength essential ? Tactics can be boosted up more for [skill]Wary Stance[/skill] and [skill]Bonetti's Defense[/skill] and there are other options for a speed boost (I'm thinking of my stock of cupcakes here, but other things will do)

What about R/Rt here? With [skill]I Am Unstoppable![/skill] and I can't think of an anti-interrupt >.>
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03   #22
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My guess is that in HM the lower AL (And loss of an effective Dol Sig) of Rits and Rangers probably means that you'd still die under VwK.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 04:11 PM // 16:11   #23
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I can see the following being useful:

Knight's Insignias
+10AR vs Slashing shield with +30hp
+5AR Sword or Axe

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Old Nov 19, 2007, 04:13 PM // 16:13   #24
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Well, I have an 18 second I am Unstoppable on my Ranger, so I can use that. I can also use Great Dwarf Armor. That would make for +48 armor that I can keep up permanently, with a small down-time between Unstoppables.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55   #25
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I believe GameCam is a better alternative for vids. Or Fraps. I don't use either (yet), but a large number of the vids I saw are made by those two.

Would this be possible for a Rt/W ? Or is the Strength essential ? Tactics can be boosted up more for [skill]Wary Stance[/skill] and [skill]Bonetti's Defense[/skill] and there are other options for a speed boost (I'm thinking of my stock of cupcakes here, but other things will do)

What about R/Rt here? With [skill]I Am Unstoppable![/skill] and I can't think of an anti-interrupt >.>
I was talking about editors not recorders, as Windows Movie Maker does not allow me to save videos in widescreen meaning you get the squashed effect like there.

You'd be better off as a Rt/Me
VwK, Archane Echo, Mantra of Resolve, Physical Resistance, you'd probably be sorted, with no need for party favours.
Also if yuo wanted a speed boost you could use illusion of haste or something similair?

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I can see the following being useful:

Knight's Insignias
+10AR vs Slashing shield with +30hp
+5AR Sword or Axe
Already using those but thanks for the tip anyway
Also it's really not needed, they only put out a small amount of damage.

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Well, I have an 18 second I am Unstoppable on my Ranger, so I can use that. I can also use Great Dwarf Armor. That would make for +48 armor that I can keep up permanently, with a small down-time between Unstoppables.
Isn't there some kind of armor buff restriction in HM? I think it's +30, attack avoidance would probably be better than an armor buff, but just do as I did and throw a bunch of random builds at it until you find one that works

The truth is this farm is doable with a lot of professions.

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Old Nov 19, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #26
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I've got a mesmer (yes mesmer) build that can do these in HM, it was a while ago so I'll have to re-check the skills to see if any of them were nerfed lately If anyone is interested I'll post the (wacko) build

Armor stacking cannot surpass +24, after 24, it simply uses the highest armor skill you are using (any other have virtually no effect)
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #27
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i'm doing this on my assassin, in 30 minutes i got 100k
including 1 r10 elemental sword, 2 black dyes and alot of gold crap ( 5 hp+30 for axe)
i always get a goldy, best is 4 goldies. :-)
i like this
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33   #28
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This IS in HM.
I Dont think this is HM, not with a warrior anyways.

It doesnt have to be W/E, thats just what i was trying at the time, Because i couln't find a way to do it With a W/Rt (i also tried W/Mo [lol couldn't resist], and W/me). I'm just trying to find a build to farm them efficiently with a warrior (second profession doesn't matter). Cuzz me being the idiot that i am, havent gotten my assasin up to 20, or my elementalist up either. :P
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:23 AM // 02:23   #29
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What exactly is the drop rate for this run? From what Snodaard is saying, sounds pretty sweet.

Might try this
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 03:00 AM // 03:00   #30
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I Dont think this is HM, not with a warrior anyways.

It doesnt have to be W/E, thats just what i was trying at the time, Because i couln't find a way to do it With a W/Rt (i also tried W/Mo [lol couldn't resist], and W/me). I'm just trying to find a build to farm them efficiently with a warrior (second profession doesn't matter). Cuzz me being the idiot that i am, havent gotten my assasin up to 20, or my elementalist up either. :P
Well maybe you cant do it in HM, but the rest (including me) are doing it in hm
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34   #31
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Seriously? Using this build u can do it in HM?
Lololol I need to learn to read :P

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Old Nov 20, 2007, 06:33 AM // 06:33   #32
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I can do it in HM, only did about 7-8 runs so far and got 1 gold. Just my luck. :sigh:
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 06:40 AM // 06:40   #33
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I also got an elemental sword today(req11), and about 20 golds in a short period of time.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26   #34
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Nothing but a lot of whites, a couple of crappy golds, and some assassin tomes for me
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 08:02 AM // 08:02   #35
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Originally Posted by snodaard
i'm doing this on my assassin, in 30 minutes i got 100k
including 1 r10 elemental sword, 2 black dyes and alot of gold crap ( 5 hp+30 for axe)
i always get a goldy, best is 4 goldies. :-)
i like this
To keep it short this ^^ is BS. I'm doing these runs for more than 1 week. Got 2 ele swords so far, some black dyes, a lot of golds and assa tomes. Once i got 4 goldies in 1 run. You do not always get a gold. Sometimes it's 3-4 runs without any golds. It's good farming spot but nothing exceptional. Well, ele swords are good, but they are still rare drops.

Some videos for you

Assa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4u2CW1Yf0

Ele - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZ0nwET380

All credits go to these guys.

Enjoy.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17   #36
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I was talking about editors not recorders, as Windows Movie Maker does not allow me to save videos in widescreen meaning you get the squashed effect like there.

You'd be better off as a Rt/Me
VwK, Archane Echo, Mantra of Resolve, Physical Resistance, you'd probably be sorted, with no need for party favours.
Also if yuo wanted a speed boost you could use illusion of haste or something similair?



Already using those but thanks for the tip anyway
Also it's really not needed, they only put out a small amount of damage.



Isn't there some kind of armor buff restriction in HM? I think it's +30, attack avoidance would probably be better than an armor buff, but just do as I did and throw a bunch of random builds at it until you find one that works

The truth is this farm is doable with a lot of professions.
Didn't know there was an armor limit ^_^ Still, +24 is enough, I suppose. I'm gonna give this a try.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39   #37
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Didn't know there was an armor limit ^_^ Still, +24 is enough, I suppose. I'm gonna give this a try.
Maybe even the PvE Norn skill "You Are All Weaklings!" might be worth a try.

Shout. Target foe and all adjacent foes are weakened for 6...12 seconds.

Or something like Blind Was Mingson in VwK downtime.

Item Spell. Hold Mingson's ashes for up to 15...51 seconds. When you drop his ashes, all nearby foes are Blinded for 3...7 seconds.

Maybe try some them when you can.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 09:47 AM // 09:47   #38
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Is it possible to do this farm with a dervish or monk?
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12   #39
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its really not hard as a warrior/rit, just keep Dolyack and endure pain and bonettis while VWK is down!
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56   #40
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Is it possible to do this farm with a dervish or monk?
Try and develop something yourself, you're going to need some kind of anti-interrupt, you could probably go with a blind skill on your dervish.

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Nothing but a lot of whites, a couple of crappy golds, and some assassin tomes for me
Yep that's pretty much what I get all the time, get some Q9s at times.

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Seriously? Using this build u can do it in HM?
Lololol I need to learn to read :P
You should probably watch the video.

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its really not hard as a warrior/rit, just keep Dolyack and endure pain and bonettis while VWK is down!
You don't need endure pain, but thank you for summarising the build with an extra un-needed skill.

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