Curse

azizul1975 · Dec 04, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

i play monk, so usually i'll try to save other monks first, then i go for the one with least health.

Mr Pink57 · Dec 04, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by azizul1975

i play monk, so usually i'll try to save other monks first, then i go for the one with least health.

Only problem with that is if the other monk just starts healing you, your just gonna heal each other the whole time lol.

If its gonna hit the fan hard i swap to 40/40 heal set after i drop a aegis if I can and WoH to all hell and kiss when I can.

pink

ShadowbaneX · Dec 04, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

generally when I'm panicing I panic. Strange, true, but I feel that it's important to go with the tried and true methods. So when I'm doing something, you know, I do it.

On a slightly more serious note: run away and hope that someone has brought rebirth.

Seriously though, just do what you can. Conditions and hexes aren't major so, whatever, take care of them when you've got a moment. Two guys are almost dead? Well, which two? Pick the more valuable one (think defensive skills, the monk, the paragon, the tank) and concentrate on keeping that one alive. If you can manage to keep both of them alive, all the better, but if you have a choice, well, it's triage time, save the more important one. If it's a mission, know when to cut and run. If you're being swarmed over, and it's not a timed mission, run. Break aggro and wait for things to calm down, then move back in and get people back on their feet. If you can encourage someone with rebirth to get away so much the better. Granted, in some cases this doesn't help since there are some monks that don't run a res, but I do so I know that if survive it's not a total loss if I manage to survive (and huzzah for the fact that Healer's Boon half-casts Healing Resses). Three second Restore Life at 16 Healing? Yes, please!

If you're just wandering around somewhere, well, actually wiping isn't horrible as there are convinently placed res shrines all over the place.

Oh, and if all else fails grab your blanket and read the cover of hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.

Turtle222 · Dec 04, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

I stand up.
Tell myself it's a game, and not worth panicking over. Grab a breath of fresh air.
Go get a double shot of whiskey on ice, and return.

The team may well have wiped... But I gots whiskey

Sli Ander · Dec 04, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53

I don't like to call it 'panic' either, I just tend to get more focused when I'm in 'triage mode'. The bigger the challenge the more focused I get (I'm no supermonk, I just rearrange priorities).

Usually I'll slap prot followed by a small heal on those taking the worst damage or a party heal/prot for when everyone's doing about the same. If it's a high condition area I'll usually have a mass-removal, or if not just go for the priority target(i.e. the guy not countering his own damage by kiting). As someone else said, it sometimes just comes down to spamming your skills until your run out of energy; I've found if you just spam them on the right people they can usually kill that baddie and turn the tables(though a few of those times there was a necro paying enough attention to give me more).

If it's worse than that, I'll ping the radar and heal the ones that run just enough so they don't die while they're doing it. Anyone that doesn't gets my heals until they run or die, in which case I run like hell before I attract some personal loving from the monsters. I try and be the last to leave but I have been forced to abandon some people with Leroy Jenkins style spirit.

But that's just my two cents

Age · Dec 04, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

I just to my jop and not panick it is not like we are in plane crash so we get wiped or some do it is not the end of the world.PuGs out there think it is is bot over all I just keep the team healed sometimes just using RoF but I hate hexes anyways.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Dec 04, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

if a wammo over aggros kinda like my guild leader likes to do....I just let them try to live on there own for a while since wammos like to say they can survive so they almost always over aggro, yes I started pugging again for kicks to see what missions can be done with idiots. I got bored of beating the games over and over again and got tired of trying to get guildies to HA and GVG so I just went with my monk and started to just collect bad builds, it's what started the bad PUG build thread.

jsalvadore1325 · Dec 04, 2007, 10:46 PM // 22:46

In terms of the best targets to heal, you need to remember your job is to keep people alive and kicking, not at 100% all the time. You can let a few people degen below 75% if someone is getting about to get spiked.

In pve, you just need to adapt your build in certain environments. If you're in a place that has tons of hexes or conditions, bring extinguish and maybe a HB+Heal Party Bot.

In terms of panicking, don't panic. I wish that monks start out with a Don't Panic button. Just because half your team is below 60% it doesn't mean they're all going to die. Instead of spamming seven 5 energy upkeep heals. You could just spend 15 on a heal party. (Why do you think LoD got so popular?) Panicking just leads to bad choices and wasting energy.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Dec 04, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Perfectly said. I can't say how many times I have watched groups at less than 50% health hold out and win against lots of mobs.

Akin · Dec 14, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by jon0592

The following is for PvE.

I was just wondering how you guys deal with a scenario when you're in a group of 8 (human/hero/hench it doesn't matter) and you've got major hexes everywhere, a few conditions here and there, 2 guys almost dead, another 1 getting spiked...

In general, pressure. What skills do you guys do to counter pressure? Mass hex removal? Mass condition removal?

Heal Party, it used to be LoD but thats dead now so don't bother. If you don't have heal party on your bar then you should have some other source of party heals somewhere else in your build and that character needs to kick it into high gear. WoH/Cure Hex the low members of your party but remember your never going to keep up with party wide degen with targeted heals. You need party healing. If someone is getting spiked in that situation, do your best to catch it, or better yet pre-prot it, but if your under that kind of pressure sometimes the best thing to do is take a death or 2 and res sig/deathpact sig back from it.

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 02:29 AM // 02:29

I randomly press F and spam 1,2,3,4,5.

MasterSasori · Dec 14, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

1. F
2. Spam prot enchants
3. ZB
4. RUN!

Coloneh · Dec 14, 2007, 04:47 AM // 04:47

save the key players if you cant get everyone. the sin can die, the mesmer can die, the warrior and the other monk should be kept alive. and when everything goes wrong know when to bail. people might be annoyed when you run away, but they will be less annoyed when you bring the party back from a wipe.

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

save the key players if you cant get everyone. the sin can die, the mesmer can die, the warrior and the other monk should be kept alive. and when everything goes wrong know when to bail. people might be annoyed when you run away, but they will be less annoyed when you bring the party back from a wipe.

You work that out as you pathetic?

"OK OK OK! Mesmer is dead OMG NOOB! OK ZB THE MONK OMFG YOU NOOB! Ok WAMMO USE DOYLAKS NO IDIOT NO REBIRTH FOR YOU! OMG Noob sin using shadowform no rebirth you dead now im leaving k bye noobs !" Something like that?

Terraban · Dec 14, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

I roll my face on the keyboard.

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

You work that out as you pathetic?

"OK OK OK! Mesmer is dead OMG NOOB! OK ZB THE MONK OMFG YOU NOOB! Ok WAMMO USE DOYLAKS NO IDIOT NO REBIRTH FOR YOU! OMG Noob sin using shadowform no rebirth you dead now im leaving k bye noobs !" Something like that?

Please don't do that again.

Syntonic · Dec 14, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

I draw a bunch of arrows on the map and ping locations to pull back to or the creature giving you trouble (mesmer, enemy monk which is being ignored, rit enemy reviving or whatever) etc. since you probably have better battlefield awareness at that moment while mashing buttons like crazy to save lives. Well, maybe it involves a bit than just mashing buttons but the spamming part and arrows/ping is right on. You should try it.

makosi · Dec 14, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Believe it or not, a strategically places [skill]Healing Seed[/skill] can really ease those panicky moments. The 2 second cast sucks but a good monk will have a dual 20/20 set at hand.

moko · Dec 14, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Divine Spirit + 123456781234567812345678

Avarre · Dec 14, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

Go into a triage state of mind. Your only role is to prevent death as far as possible, so expend time and energy saving what can be saved. That may mean letting someone die in order to ensure nobody else goes down. If that one death means you can prevent a wipe, it's a victory for you in that situation. Obviously you should try to keep everyone alive, but in a critical situation that may not be possible.

Focus prot (swap into high set if you have to) on targets taking direct fire, and try to bump up health bars of vulnerable players (anything with low health and likely to take damage in the near future - watch the field). Once whoever is getting spiked is heavily protted, the enemy will either keep hitting them (you win), or change targets - in which case pay attention and be ready to preprot. Once you're back on top of the situation and pre-empting damage with prot rather than reacting, your team will start to stabilize.

At the same time, you should scream at your team 'MITIGATE YOU FAILURES!' (insert choice of obscenities) and hope they recognize that it is now the time to stop taking damage. The more people that kite/re-position to safety, the less you have to potentially save.

LightningHell · Dec 14, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Originally Posted by Avarre

At the same time, you should scream at your team 'MITIGATE YOU FAILURES!' (insert choice of obscenities) and hope they recognize that it is now the time to stop taking damage. The more people that kite/re-position to safety, the less you have to potentially save.

Most important step imo.