Curse

jon0592 · Dec 03, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40

The following is for PvE.

I was just wondering how you guys deal with a scenario when you're in a group of 8 (human/hero/hench it doesn't matter) and you've got major hexes everywhere, a few conditions here and there, 2 guys almost dead, another 1 getting spiked...

In general, pressure. What skills do you guys do to counter pressure? Mass hex removal? Mass condition removal?

Diddy bow · Dec 03, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42

A run holy haste + LOD on a hero to try and avoid it/fix it, then focus on keeping the hexes off him untill the hexes on the rest just... run out ^^.

Utaku · Dec 03, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

I ping a place on the radar I want every body to fall back to.
Or flag everybody back when I heroe/hench.

Usually PuGs don't care anyway, so I fall back with my heroes, and let people that can't read a radar die

Stormlord Alex · Dec 03, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47

I stand up.
Tell myself it's a game, and not worth panicking over. Grab a breath of fresh air.
Go get a double shot of whiskey on ice, and return.

The team may well have wiped... But I gots whiskey

Faure · Dec 04, 2007, 12:02 AM // 00:02

I just walk slowly back while healing/protting where possible (preferably the other monk).
I tell everyone to run back. Then regroup, regen and start rebirthing =).

Altough there's imo a difference in pressure (like described above) and panicking (near-whipe for me). With that kind of pressure I stay calm and heal what i can.

Wakka · Dec 04, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

To be fair if your in a high end area and stop to type when your monkin and under a lot of pressure someones going to die lol

The key is not to stop no matter what you do.

Sakura Az · Dec 04, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

in that senario.. ZB on one, dismiss and RoF on the onther thats dieing, guardian or SoA or PS on the one about to be spiked, depends on the mob, then back up and throw RoF, dismiss, and GoH around and hope for the best. i ignore hexes in pve for the most part. pvp i'll throw in deny hexes in that mess just cause people bring more potent hexes than what is found in pve.

and to deal with party wide degen.. thats what i have my rit and second monk to help with^^, pvp party wide degen.. eh i remove the hex's from the important people and dismiss condition, bascily i heal thru it and remove what i can. i only really monk in AB and RA, so party degen isn't as bad as if it was in 8v8 format.

Kwan Xi · Dec 04, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21

If I'm healer: Heals to whoever needs it most first, Dwayna's Kiss helps with mass hexing, Cure Hex and Blessed Light are useful to heal+remove hexes. If everyone is loosing health rapidly Spam Heal Party or LoD, Spam heals like crazy till your energy runes out

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If I'm Protect Monk: Divert Hexes for mass hexing, Restore Condition for mass conditions, and Zealous Benediction, If I have Aegis on me I usually spam that in a panic situation.

At least try to wait for a call to retreat but if its obvious your all gonna die run like hell rez everyone later.... sorry

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JoeKnowMo · Dec 04, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

I try to save the target being spiked first (RoF + other stuff) then heal up the other two with low HP.

If I'm running HBoon, I use GoLE + 2 Heal Partys once people are stabilized.

I'll switch to my high-energy set if needed as well.

If death is inevitable (in a pug), I try to save the smart players and let the stupid ones die.

Grammar · Dec 04, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

In situations where the sh** hits the fan like that, all you can do is just start chain casting your skills like crazy and hope your party kills everything before you run out of energy.

Aegis is also golden in that situation. Just pray to God you get that fast cast.

The most important thing after something like that happens is to figure out why you where in that situation in the first place.
Did the group over-aggro? Were the wrong targets being called? Did some key skills get interrupted? Etc.

Xue Fang · Dec 04, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

I blame the Monks, personally.

Sakura Az · Dec 04, 2007, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammar

The most important thing after something like that happens is to figure out whyyou where in that situation in the first place.
Did the group over-aggro? Were the wrong targets being called? Did some key skills get interrupted? Etc.

hehe like if your party ran a radar range infront of you while you were opening a chest.. ugh for that last night.

i had forgotten about aegis, i haven't run that in a little while. that is like turning on invincibilty for 15 seconds sometimes.. i don't have to do anything while aegis is up in pve most of the time.

Yichi · Dec 04, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

I don't panic. we either get through it or we wipe. It's only pve. theres a res shrine right around the corner

arcady · Dec 04, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Walk back slowly, spam draw conditions, put out a few remove hexes, and if its really going fully south - wait for the PUG to die and then rebirth.

If it isn't really going south, there's still a point to casting guardian and reversal of fortune, and aegis whenever its renewed.

Now if I were to answer the thread's title, what do you do when panicking... well, panic?

This probably means I'm being forced by the PUG to run between two groups out of range of each other, and trying to undo the split or at least figure out which is going the right way so I know who to save.

Sometimes it means somebody is drawing all sorts of lines all over the radar and only using words like 'noob' in chat such that not I nor anyone else has any idea why all those lines are appearing or what they are instructing us to do...

In which case I find a spot to stand and wait for PUG death. Rez whoever hasn't rage quit, hope it was the Wa/Mo that rage quit, and continue on if possible.

Yesterday's panic on my Elementalist was the result of the monk turning out to be a 55'r who joined the mission to farm the Kournan guards out of Venta Cemetary - and I did a lot of running back and forth mostly trying to keep all the NPC monks from following him, until thankfully, artillery fire got him. While he didn't rage quit, he at least went silent in chat when nobody came by to rez him.

But that's panic - it usually means a lot of running back and forth, no matter what profession I'm on.

Key is to try and avoid the panic as a response to a situation.

jon0592 · Dec 04, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16

So I guess most of you guys run protection builds...

Me personally, I like to get health back up to aruond 75% for all, so I LoD + Holy Haste, with GoLE and 2 Heal Parties.

Thanks for responses, interesting to see what others do.

Seraphic Divinity · Dec 04, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

I say "WTF?! JOO ARE EPIC PHAIL" And rage

Toutatis · Dec 04, 2007, 01:41 AM // 01:41

In a panic situation, I order an immediate retreat - anyone who doesn't follow the retreat is left to die (it's not as if they can't be rezzed later when you come back for them). As a Monk, you're the real commander of the group regardless of who is making the target calls or drawing things on the compass.

If you're being beaten badly then the team's strategy isn't working and it's time to pull back before getting wiped, take stock of DP and the status of the party's rez signet stockpile, and ask the Mesmer or Ranger for their input (they're the ones who tend to spend most of their time monitoring the status of the field and the wide array of skills that the enemy is using against you, so they'll usually be the first to come up with a workable plan of attack).

Rexion · Dec 04, 2007, 03:09 AM // 03:09

if i haven't done this mission:
"you guys are cow poo, play BETTER!!! now, lets do this.... wammo you can die though"

if i have:
" *eric cartman voice* screw you guys, im going home"

Keekles · Dec 04, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04

I don't PUG, so I don't really encounter issues with PUGs and near wipe situations.

When playing with guild mates, I usually inform them when I'm low on energy over vent.

If I'm playing with H/H, and I KNOW the mob will kill us, I just wipe and start over (it's pve after all).

Div · Dec 04, 2007, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

The team may well have wiped... But I gots whiskey

^ very win.