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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15   #21
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lol, endgame NF +those two skills = pwnage for the large mobs
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49   #22
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lol, endgame NF +those two skills = pwnage for the large mobs
My N/Me thought that was nice - but then switched to N/Mo with Divert, Aegis, PS and a condition removal because it was better!
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14   #23
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Well, you can't really compare a midliner with a backliner I guess.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41   #24
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Well, you can't really compare a midliner with a backliner I guess.
8 people in a party.
If that is the best the mesmer has to offer - and it outclassed by something that a necro can do (better even!) as a secondary ....
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02   #25
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8 people in a party.
If that is the best the mesmer has to offer - and it outclassed by something that a necro can do (better even!) as a secondary ....
Who cares if a necro has passive e-management?
The OP's question was "what can I do with my mesmer in pve", and HEV is one of the options. It's pretty situationnal, but there are tons of zones with hexes (FoW, torment, southern shiverpeaks, echovald forest for instance). And of course, if hexes are uncommun, use another build!
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27   #26
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Who cares if a necro has passive e-management?
The OP's question was "what can I do with my mesmer in pve", and HEV is one of the options. It's pretty situationnal, but there are tons of zones with hexes (FoW, torment, southern shiverpeaks, echovald forest for instance). And of course, if hexes are uncommun, use another build!
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lol, endgame NF +those two skills = pwnage for the large mobs
made it sound like it's made of WIN!
It's really good for a mesmer.
And I think that says it all.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 10:52 AM // 10:52   #27
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[skill]Glyph of Renewal[/skill] as elite imo
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Old Jan 18, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26   #28
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Just use MoR cry of pain and stop sucking =)
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Old Jan 18, 2008, 01:13 AM // 01:13   #29
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Damn, HEV got nerfed.... really sucks...
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Old Jan 18, 2008, 08:59 AM // 08:59   #30
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Do we really have to have this debate in every mesmer thread?
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Old Jan 18, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52   #31
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If upier posts, then yes.
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Old Jan 20, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16   #32
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Upier=flame bait necro troll.

Mesmers won't have a dominant build for all situations. If you want to do mindless c-space play, be a SS nuker. If you can tie your own shoes, you can figure out ways to cause plenty of damage and cause chaos for the enemy.

[skill]cry of pain[/skill] can fit on any bar. The condition is easy to meet, and the rank for Sunspear is among the easiest to meet for useful damage. [skill]cry of frustration[/skill] gives AoE interrupt AND damage. If you just want damage, [skill]arcane echo[/skill] and [skill]energy surge[/skill] will dish out some nice AoE damage. Throw in an e-management skill like [skill]power drain[/skill] and you can do plenty of damage as a Domination mesmer, as well as cause chaos through interrupts.

PS: [skill]guilt[/skill] is good if you want to keep it in the Domination line.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #33
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As a mesmer you need to abuse enemy behaviour.
-Empathy
-Backfire

Those two skills you will find handy in all situations. Another good skill of course is MoR. HEV lost it´s value in PvP as it is more balanced now. You´ll need some e-management:
-Power Drain
-Drain Enchantment

Now of course you will need a ress:
-Signets work; but given fast casting maybe take another hard ress like Flesh of my Flesh

And last but not least:
-Necrosis
-Cry of Pain

Both Sunspear PvE skills that dish out so much damage it´s hilarious.

Note: you can´t take a hard ress if you have Necrosis. Imo you should just go signets anyway, you shouldn´t die in PvE anyway (at least not in NM)
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Old Jan 22, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52   #34
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I was gonna ask the same question as the OP.

I take Gwen Hero as a dom/monk mesmer wherever I go in PvE but thought it was time to hone up her skills.

I am a Warrior and the other heroes I use are a Fire ele nuker and an MM. I have all 4 campaigns.

This is the build I'm using:-

[skill]Enchanter's conundrum[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Diversion[/skill][skill]Shatter Hex[/skill][skill]Cry of frustration[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Judge's Insight[/skill]


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this build realy sux .. because they get problems of nrg !!
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38   #35
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minus upier and terrabans ubertrolling...

mesmers are really a more experienced player class. they have a great way of being able to adapt to any situation skill choice wise, and in order to do that, you'll need to have some extent of know-how about the games monsters/locations ect. as a fan of mesmers i'll admit when we're outclassed at times, but what egotist seem to forget, is that all classes are inefficient or "outclassed" at times. i play warrior way more than mes, and im not as great in EVERY situation at EVERY time (although we are pretty versitile, and really able to do just about anything..)


just test out skills, try out new things, mix and match professions often, and try to have fun with it. its a game.. although for some.. an ego trip
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15   #36
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minus upier and terrabans ubertrolling...
Ill try not to flame....
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mesmers are really a more experienced player class. they have a great way of being able to adapt to any situation skill choice wise
As can....pretty much everything.
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i'll admit when we're outclassed at times
"Times" as in always? When isn't a Mesmer outclassed in PvE?
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but what egotist seem to forget, is that all classes are inefficient or "outclassed" at times
Paragons are "outclassed" when up against Vocal Minority with stacked hexes. That happens with one kind of monster...Good ol' Dreadgaze Dryder's. Undead in NF to a lesser extent.
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just test out skills, try out new things, mix and match professions often, and try to have fun with it. its a game.. although for some.. an ego trip
The ability to understand how the game works is not an "ego".
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28   #37
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He's right about the learning curve. It can be pretty steep. Everything else is....
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Do we really have to have this debate in every mesmer thread?
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Old Jan 23, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #38
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when i go dom(admitedly not often) i usually set up somthing like this

Empathy
Backfire(or shatter Enchantment)
Energy Burn
Echo
Energy tap
Web of Disruption
Diversion
Rez
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