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Master of Sins · Jan 11, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

I was just wondering what kind of dps people have been able to get on a maxed offensive sin, including a different primary and secondary sin as well. So far I have been able to come up with approximately 130 dps- 550 damage over 4.25 seconds- of course the build has no healing at all and high energy requirements. But I am sure there are better rounded builds with higher dps somewhere.. so out of curiosity? Anyone no what the highest dps build IS?

Bobby2 · Jan 11, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

I believe the SP Trampling Ox bar currently has the highest burst damage. If it didn't, people would be running something else.

I'm a big fan of Moebius-Blossom sustained damage. Over 10 seconds Master of Damage, the numbers are insane. But that's not what you asked

Pyro maniac · Jan 11, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29

Moebius + Blossom is probably highest dps

and I think you don't know what dps means: damage per second for an extended amount of time. That means not pump out damage in 5 seconds and regen, however the amount of damage you do in like 2 minutes.
Overall DPS is mostly single target based.

=DNC=Trucker · Jan 11, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Are you asking highest burst dmg (i.e. in 5 seconds?), or sustained DPS?

Master of Sins · Jan 11, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42

sorry I wasn't specific XD my bad. I meant the highest dps on a burst sin- say a 7 seconds and under spike. And I agree that mobius and death blossom are highest sustainable. Can you run the numbers on a calculator for the Trampling SP build- I am curios to know the exact numbers- its about a 5 second spike with tiger stance right?

Bowstring Badass · Jan 12, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00

For PvE or PvP everyone knows the Moebius+Death in PvE is. PvP is disputable I like

Siphon Speed
Mark of Instability
Black Spider Strike
Shattering Assault
Falling Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Mending Touch
Res Sig or Restful Breeze.

Tyla · Jan 12, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34

I very much like my Flourish Sin (well...not "My" but you get it.)

Siphon Speed
Flurry
-random lead-
Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Black Spider Strike
Blades of Steel
Flourish

Accursed · Jan 13, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

i got 10k dmg after 130 seconds with the Master of Damage.

moriz · Jan 13, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42

well, the current SP sin can dish out just around 600 damage in 4 seconds. that makes for a burst damage of 150 damage per second.

ensoriki · Jan 14, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04

You mean about every 25 seconds

Or 2 times a minute

If he has another hex or if his team mates have hexed a foe
its more of every 20 seconds (for the 4 second burst)

so 3 times a minute

if not using a burst the sp sin does something like 600 in 8 seconds or so?

lacasner · Jan 14, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

If u take sp, mark of instability, SP, bls, fox fangs, twisting fangs, falling spider, and blades of steel, u trump current sp meta with trampling ox, so the people who are claiming current one does more damage are wrong. Also, if u add strength and honor and vamp wep it does for sure more than 600 dmg.

Cowboy Nastyman · Jan 14, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

If we are talking pve, highest dps would have to be a crit scythe bar. I managed
276 dps against the master of damage, with damage sustaining well above 200.
The crit scythe bar I run is as follows:

1.Club of a Thousand Bears
2.Mystic Sweep
3.Eremite's Sweep
4.Aura of Holy Might
5.Way of the Assassin
6.Way of the Master
7.Way of perfection
8.Critical Agility

Master of Sins · Jan 17, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Maybe in PvE, but you cant run that in PvP. In addition I will say again, burst sin. I still have upwards of 650 damage in 4 seconds, but it is good to see that the old fashion burst still works, even if it is more energy consuming. Some nice builds there. Also anyone got thoughts on Shove vs. Shock? Shock sins aren't as popular anymore and shove seems to have moved in-

Bobby2 · Jan 18, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Shove is nice but brought me to Iron Palm. I never liked Exhaustion anyway.

Anyone got the Master of Damage down in under 7 seconds? 7 seems to be my ceiling

Jaigoda · Jan 19, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I know you're talking about burst-DPS, but if you had a Locust's Fury 'Sin with like (over several different players and assuming max PvE ranks) Order of Pain, Strength of Honor, Judge's Insight, Asuran Scan and Crit Eye (on the 'sin), Great Dwarf Weapon, Ebon Battle Standard of Honor, and maybe some other buffs I might be missing, you could probably manage upwards of 200 DPS, especially considering that Asuran Scan affects buffs. Hey, and if you did it on, say, level 1's..... That's fun just thinking about it...

Cowboy Nastyman · Jan 19, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

order of pain and judges don't stack, judge's converts damage to holy which is not physical

Master of Sins · Jan 21, 2008, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Well I have been fiddling around the past few days and I have found two builds. They are both pretty much crap besides the damage, the factors I ran on the calculations were- 100 damage from deepwound, 60 armor target with the -20 from shadowy burden, 30% crit rate... anyway just for kicks:

Crit 10 + 3
Daggers 12 +3 + 1
Shadow 5
Deadly Arts 5

Way of the Empty Palm
Shadowy Burden
Deaths Charge
Tiger Stance
Black Spider Strike
Twisting Fangs
Golden Phoenix Strike
Blades of Steal

-tho this combo is essentially worthless, if you use vamp daggers and hit a 60 defense target you average 700 damage in 3 seconds (233 dps on burst), all things considered... I ran it on a calculator, but the build still is useless, because it has no utility besides damage on a team- high hp tho because the build only costs 25 energy

Also I just came up with this one today-

Crit 10 + 3
Daggers 12+3+1
Shadow 8

Shadowy Burden
Aura of Displacement
Tiger Stance
Golden Lotus Strike
Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Golden Phoenix Strike
Blades of Steal

this one is also pretty useless, although at least you can get in and out and can spike once every 20 seconds... still bad tho, but this build does about 800 average damage in 4 seconds (200 dps on burst), you have to run zealous dagger and have 30 energy... but wutev

I don't suggest seriously using these builds in anything since they are so lopsided and blockable, also shadowy burden is really bad, unless you target for squishies like a necro or elementalist who can't block and is undefended while the monk is busy.. but I have to say I have had more fun with these builds than anything else, even though your dead after your first spike 90% of the time you can kill a 100 defense tank warrior in 3 or 4 seconds and RAGE them like hell XD