Curse

FlamingMetroid · Jan 18, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Krazi Bastid

dps vs warr ~30
dps vs caster ~70

ya I got bored and made a crit wander build that did more damage that that. >_>

zling · Jan 19, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

ppl are telling you to make a Dervish because its the classic "lazy person's auto attacker"
Vow of Strength
Aura of Holy Might(Kurzick/Luxon PvE only skill)
whichever other enchantments and stuff you like...
and of course, a Scythe!

Krazi Bastid · Jan 19, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

yes zling and i agree with that. but my point was that i post a lazy build for sin in the sin section and ppl are saying, nah man that build fails, play dervish. i mean ok it fails, give me a lazy build for sin then. tell me to play vow scythe sin, not go make a dervish.

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 19, 2008, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Krazi Bastid

yes zling and i agree with that. but my point was that i post a lazy build for sin in the sin section and ppl are saying, nah man that build fails, play dervish. i mean ok it fails, give me a lazy build for sin then. tell me to play vow scythe sin, not go make a dervish.

I think what people are trying to tell you is... Assassin isn't a profession meant for lazy/untalented players. Those who try, usually "fail/phail."

Sure, Locust's Fury is fun to mess around with sometimes, but it usually sucks against higher level mobs and hard missions/dungeons. Even with a vamp. dagger or an elemental damage dagger + Conjure spell, it still won't be doing as much damage as you should be doing with chaining/Moebius spamming. I guess it can be somewhat useful if someone on your team (or maybe yourself) babysits you with CONSTANT Warmonger's Weapon, followed by Great Dwarf Weapon.

Tyla · Jan 19, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

I think what people are trying to tell you is... Assassin isn't a profession meant for lazy/untalented players. Those who try, usually "fail/phail"

The untalented part you said there made me giggle.
And how could you fail on a sin?

ensoriki · Jan 19, 2008, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Apparently people fail the minute they press assassin at the create a character button.

Anyways if you want lazy go make like.... an ele

FlamingMetroid · Jan 19, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

And how could you fail on a sin?

Me: "Why are you running a lifebond build on an assassin?"
Random sin in HoS: "because I didn't want to bother making a monk and this works just as well."
Me: *leaves*

i can has cookie?

Krazi Bastid · Jan 19, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

on a properly pve modded up db mobius build or other efficient pve sin build, what numbers dps wise we talkin? a daggers build preferebly, some dude posted a scythe sin build doin 270dps on another thread, i dont get close enough to compete with that. i tried the moebius build on master of dmg, and was getting dps of around 70-90. and i watched some other sin do it, same results. so its not just me clickin too slow.

this is a master of dmg test of the build i posted

test 1 -

- not using optional skills

test 2 -

- with pve +dmg skills

Moral55 · Jan 19, 2008, 05:56 AM // 05:56

You don't have crit defense, that build screams for it.

Ares Ainia · Jan 19, 2008, 08:57 AM // 08:57

In the screenshots he does..

Tyla · Jan 19, 2008, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moral55

You don't have crit defense, that build screams for it.

Pro observation skills!

Teach me someday....o master...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

i can has cookie?

Turtle222 · Jan 19, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazi Bastid

on a properly pve modded up db mobius build or other efficient pve sin build, what numbers dps wise we talkin? a daggers build preferebly, some dude posted a scythe sin build doin 270dps on another thread, i dont get close enough to compete with that. i tried the moebius build on master of dmg, and was getting dps of around 70-90. and i watched some other sin do it, same results. so its not just me clickin too slow.

this is a master of dmg test of the build i posted

test 1 -

- not using optional skills

test 2 -

- with pve +dmg skills

Its funny because he cropped out where his pve eles are standing

ensoriki · Jan 19, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Lols were is this 270 DPS crap coming from!?

Last time I checked DPS was damager per second
Moebius DB Does like 95 damage in a second, but moebius is weaker than DB so its somewhat more like 70-80 armor ignoring DPS or something

The only reason this build could match up to 70-80 DPS is because Dual attacks and an IAS hit twice per second, but you don't have enough damage buffs on you for that to be.

Your DPS is probably around 50-60 dps, which isn't bad if your being lazy, but it may not even be that high.
I can't go on GW to test.

Bobby2 · Jan 19, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Asuran Scan, Crit Agility + BSS---> Moebius Blossom spam should yield better results.

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 19, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Krazi Bastid

this is a master of dmg test of the build i posted

test 1 -

- not using optional skills

test 2 -

- with pve +dmg skills

These screenies don't say/prove much of anything. For all we know, you could've been hitting AL 60 armors. If you want to conduct a true test, you'd have to hit each armors and record the damage output... with just Locust's, Locust's with Conjure/weapon spell buffs, Moebius spam, etc.

2048 · Jan 20, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

He's right you know

royal mercenary · Jan 20, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

if you are lazy stop playing games and start watching television
cause of sins as you people don't accept sins in parties...
a sins power is he can kill allmost everything in 3seconds or less...
Not being a c+space noob hitter,

a sugestiong:
"try hitting v +space, then tab and really fast v + space again"

Krazi Bastid · Jan 20, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

the screenies arent meant to prove anything except, 1- using only the 5 skills, and 2- using asuran scan, ebon ward, and crit eye.
this build is for the lazy. most likely for ppl who dont even pug so what does it matter if i got a shitty lazy c space build, im not gonna join ur group and burden you. i never said this build was amazing and every sin should run it. just lazy ones. yall can flame me and all other lazys out there and say our builds suck but regardless, lazys exist and are runnin with h/h just straight chillin while scratchin balls.

thanks for the vow suggestion tho, i shall be usin that once i pimp out a scythe.

Draco Angelus · Jan 20, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazi Bastid

on a properly pve modded up db mobius build or other efficient pve sin build, what numbers dps wise we talkin? a daggers build preferebly, some dude posted a scythe sin build doin 270dps on another thread, i dont get close enough to compete with that. i tried the moebius build on master of dmg, and was getting dps of around 70-90. and i watched some other sin do it, same results. so its not just me clickin too slow.

this is a master of dmg test of the build i posted

test 1 -

- not using optional skills

test 2 -

- with pve +dmg skills

Right, if you want to prove a point, don't do stuff like this, I might be missing something here, but why are Locusts Fury, Strength of Honor and Live Vicariously not showing their corresponding skill number, hell, Locusts doesn't even HAVE a skill number.

please show the WHOLE screen if you want credibility, or tell me what I missed on this.

Kale Ironfist · Jan 20, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Draco Angelus

but why are Locusts Fury, Strength of Honor and Live Vicariously not showing their corresponding skill number, hell, Locusts doesn't even HAVE a skill number.

Modified (from the default) keybinds. Locust's Fury is tied to a letter, Strength of Honor and Live Vicariously tied to F6 and F8 respectively.