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Winterclaw · Jan 30, 2008, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Heal Sig yo!

If you need healing badly and fighting, that's your monks' job. If you need to top yourself off or get yourself out of the yellow zone when you aren't being hit, heal sig is good because you aren't ade dependant if you used rush or whatever.

Lady Yuna · Jan 30, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

LC is good if you got a monk back up, as you can only heal if you have 5 adr. But HS are generally better, you can use it in all occasions, but the price is 2 sec. cast, which gives plenty time to get interrupted.

Magikarp · Jan 30, 2008, 03:04 AM // 03:04

personally, i believe LC goes against everything a warrior having a self-heal is for.

HS out of battle, or crossing target swaps while AoE windows are closed. LC is crud if blinded/hexed/blahblahblahed. not to mention, less heal anyhow/waste of my adren.

i'll use no healing kthanxz lol

blue.rellik · Jan 30, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by Reinfire

You dont need frenzy in PvE, flail works fine enough there. A warrior doesnt need a lot of skills to be effective, room enough to spend 2 slots on a nice and powerfull self-heal. Harriers Haste may be nice in PvP but for PvE foes are generally not moving that much so not really devastating.

And if a prot hench puts an enchantment on you doesnt garantee good back-up if you see how retarded henches are :P

We're obviously talking about PvP since a self heal isn't necessary in PvE

Stormlord Alex · Jan 30, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

We're obviously talking about PvP since a self heal isn't necessary in PvE

/agreed. Last time I brought a heal in PvE was... umm... *cue tumbleweed*

Even then, for PvE, I'd prefer Healsig. Chances are, if I need my self-heal, the group (a PuG) has fallen apart and I'm needing to spam Healsig to save my sorry ass whilst I run away to go and Rebirth everyone and start over again.

Pyro maniac · Jan 30, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

We're obviously talking about PvP since a self heal isn't necessary in PvE

like you need a self-heal in PvP ..

Reinfire · Jan 30, 2008, 11:22 AM // 11:22

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We're obviously talking about PvP since a self heal isn't necessary in PvE

Well, in case you didnt notice, this is a PvE forum. The topic starter didnt mention that it was a question for PvP so we can assume that this is a PvE question.

blue.rellik · Jan 30, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

like you need a self-heal in PvP ..

A self-heal is pretty important in RA and splitting in GvG.

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Originally Posted by Reinfire

Well, in case you didnt notice, this is a PvE forum. The topic starter didnt mention that it was a question for PvP so we can assume that this is a PvE question.

Not really since warrior's don't need self-heals in PvE. In fact the closest thing to a self-heal I bring on my warrior is "There's nothing to fear!"

Age · Feb 02, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

I prefer HS as if you aren't fighting and have say poison on you it is best to use HS.I find this best when running over LC.The only advantages LC has is it is harder to interrupt and ignorance isn't a problem as well as spells fro ele and spirits from rangers.

zling · Feb 02, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11

[skill]natural healing[/skill] or even [skill]shadow refuge[/skill] are better than both [skill]healing signet[/skill] and [skill]lion's comfort[/skill]
this is if you must have a self heal, which means RA, AB and PvE

Crom The Pale · Feb 02, 2008, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Shadow Refuge???

Is that meant as a joke or what???

Coloneh · Feb 02, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

natural healing is good, but you need 5 energy... i dont always have 5 energy.
and i hope shadow refuge was a joke...

Stormlord Alex · Feb 02, 2008, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

and i hope shadow refuge was a joke...

Actually, since the buff... If I add up the numbers, Refuge isn't that atrocious, tbh.

An 8-spec Shadow Refuge (looking at the tables, seems the strongest spec) is... 96-hp regen with 52 on end if you're hitting stuff (not much of a problem for a warr).

So, a 96 or 148 heal - better imo than Natural at a comparable spec. The problem is, though... is that for /A, I'd rather run one of them shadowsteps (lame stupid mechanics maybe lame and stupid, but winning is good for the e-peen) or Disrupting Dagger.

And for split situations where I need that self-heal...
The utility stuff offered by /D (Rend and Harrier's) outshines shadowsteps any day.

edit oooh and... yeah =[ shadow refuge heals over 6 seconds

kinda blows there

Magikarp · Feb 02, 2008, 09:35 AM // 09:35

if you MUST be the oddball with the over healing, drop tactics in low end pvp for shadow arts for deaths charge/refuge/dis dagger/dash/ect... w/a is fairly nice thanks to the sins side of utility...

i prefer tons of str and weapon mastery+dis dagger and either a shadowstep, or siphon. if im bored in RA, i'll goof off with refuge. other than that, no healing for me in low end pvp or pve. in high end, its heal sig all the way, and thats ONLY if im splitting.

Pyro maniac · Feb 02, 2008, 09:38 AM // 09:38

I use a 8 spec [skill]Death's Charge[/skill] as self-heal, but just in arena's.
If I'm splitting in GvG I don't bother taking a self-heal. Got a rit runner to back me up, or if I'm alone I'll just run away ..

Raiku · Feb 02, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

-40 Armor is pretty useful when you want to farm with just signets.

Stick in Retribution + Holy Wrath = 0 Energy

How do I heal Nao?!?!!

Oh wait

Healing Signet!!

The -40 Armor can do more dmg to the monster!

mrmango · Feb 02, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

lol Raiku, nice joke.

I'd prefer heal sig, but neither in PVE. Unless it's one of them solo quests or something, but even then it's iffy.

Coloneh · Feb 02, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

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Originally Posted by mrmango

lol Raiku, nice joke.

that wasnt a joke... its actually used in a few farming builds

Yukito Kunisaki · Feb 03, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I think you don't need a self-heal if your monks are on straight...

But if you do, best scenarios?

Str invested shield? Lion's Comfort

Tactics based shield? Healing Sig

Then you change the situations accordingly.

Bring an armor up skill [Watch Yourself + Healing Sig + Flail + Sentry Runes]= Good heal! But, again, this is assuming you're either monkless (damn your cahones are big) or your monk sucks (hey, nobody's perfect :])