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Pyro maniac · Jan 14, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49

add 9 spear mastery and use a spear with it

Lourens · Jan 14, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

whats all this about spears?? why not use a bow and go with distracting shot or something like that ?

lennymon · Jan 14, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Just because most people feel that a hybrid is best suited for dps, and those are better with spear/hammer. YMMV (your mileage may vary).

Amy Awien · Jan 14, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Lourens

whats all this about spears?? why not use a bow and go with distracting shot or something like that ?

Bow's fine, it's your pet that's doing most of the damage anyway.

KalleDamos · Jan 14, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

The main reason Heal as One is on my build is that I like to take some presure off the monks by healing myself. I try to have a self heal in every build just in case. Always be prepared kinda thing.

mrmango · Jan 14, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by KalleDamos

The main reason Heal as One is on my build is that I like to take some presure off the monks by healing myself. I try to have a self heal in every build just in case. Always be prepared kinda thing.

Prepare better: bring better monks. If they choose to group you for whatever reason (bribery?).

Elite heal on a non-monk sounds pretty fail.

System_Crush · Jan 15, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

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Originally Posted by mrmango

Prepare better: bring better monks. If they choose to group you for whatever reason (bribery?).

Elite heal on a non-monk sounds pretty fail.

What are you smoking? [skill=text]Heal as One[/skill] is the elite version of [skill=text]Comfort Animal[/skill] all beast masters bring comfort, hence bringing an elite comfort can't be bad.
(I may be biased as I primary as a necro and an Elite BotM would the the best thing ever)
I'd recon Has1 is not much worse than [skill=text]Enraged Lunge[/skill] and definitely better than [skill=text]Ferocious Strike[/skill] on a class that has access to expertise.

Why is heal as 1 good?
How many player monks have you met that heal your pets for you?

Also this build needs [skill=text]Brutal strike[/skill] 60+ additional damage is the next best thing if you don't bring [skill=text]Enraged Lunge[/skill].

While writing this, I wonder if anyone has ever tried a Expertise, channeling, beast mastery ranger...
[wiki]Great Dwarf Weapon[/wiki] is nice for pets with [wiki]Feral Aggression[/wiki] on them. [skill=text]Splinter Weapon[/skill] and [wiki]Sundering Weapon[/wiki] might be pretty good on a pet too.

Amy Awien · Jan 15, 2008, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Unfortunately, channeling only works with spells.

Wakka · Jan 15, 2008, 09:29 AM // 09:29

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Originally Posted by mrmango

Elite heal on a non-monk sounds pretty fail.

/Very much agree.

Whats with all the pet related posts on the forums recently

Washi · Jan 15, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

Unfortunately, channeling only works with spells.

I think he is talkin about an attribute not a skill.

Amy Awien · Jan 15, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Ah, off course, that channeling, where the neat weapon spells are.

KalleDamos · Jan 15, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

I've updated my build, it is still for PvE, so here it is.

[skill]Feral Lunge[/skill][skill]Brutal Strike[/skill][skill]Ferocious Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Never Rampage Alone[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

11+1 - Beast mastery
10+1+2 - Expertise
10+1 - Marksmanship
Rank 9 Sunspear.

And with the double sunspear/lightbringer weekend coming up should hit rank 10 in no time.

lennymon · Jan 15, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Without any bow skills to take advantage of your bow (thus relegating it to simple dps) it may be better to consider another weapon which will give better dps at that attribute level. Bows don't really get as good dps as spear for example. But... if you do stick with bow, I'd personally bring distracting shot instead of disrupting lunge for better odds of hitting that critical skill.

quickmonty · Jan 15, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

You could always take a weapon with +energy.

System_Crush · Jan 16, 2008, 08:21 AM // 08:21

For a beastmaster I found it pays to bring [wiki]Volley[/wiki] as your only bow skill, with no wilderness survival [wiki]Rapid Fire[/wiki] will be the best preparation you'll get, and a volley spamm does more supportive damage damage than you could with increased attack speed.

[skill=text]Focused Shot[/skill] locks pet attacks right?

Aris the Accurate · Jan 16, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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For a beastmaster I found it pays to bring Volley as your only bow skill, with no wilderness survival Rapid Fire will be the best preparation you'll get, and a volley spamm does more supportive damage damage than you could with increased attack speed.

Focused Shot locks pet attacks right?

volly with no marksmanship won't be of much support...and rapid fire is fail. even with only putting in leftover spec points I would still take ap. No idea about focused shot..have it but never used it.

@Kalle
Might wana bring a way to rez your pet..and id take those points out of marks and go spear for faster natural attack and the ability to use a shield for more armor.

KalleDamos · Jan 16, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

No offence to any who keeps suggesting it, but if I wanted to use a spear, I would be making a P/R... I'm sticking with a bow, i like it, I enjoy the skills, and it means I have to spend less money on gear seeing as I already have a couple bows, and only one spear that is currently being used.

Earth · Jan 16, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by KalleDamos

I've updated my build, it is still for PvE, so here it is.

[skill]Feral Lunge[/skill][skill]Brutal Strike[/skill][skill]Ferocious Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Never Rampage Alone[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

11+1 - Beast mastery
10+1+2 - Expertise
10+1 - Marksmanship
Rank 9 Sunspear.

And with the double sunspear/lightbringer weekend coming up should hit rank 10 in no time.

But... Why do you have 11 marksmanship with no bow skills? That's pretty, you know, useless.

You say you enjoy the skills, yet you have NO bow skills? I don't know but... Weird.

EDIT:

And what do you do if your pet dies? You are totally useless when that happens. Atleast bring a way to res it ^^

System_Crush · Jan 16, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate

volly with no marksmanship won't be of much support...and rapid fire is fail.

He has 11 marksmanship which is plenty for volley.
Also rapid fire will make you do more damage with 11 marksmanship then you could with 10 spear mastery.
But if you going to have no weapon related skills what so E4 then spear is indeed better.
And it looks like you will need to eject all weapon related skills as you don't even have room for a pet rez ATM.

lennymon · Jan 16, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by KalleDamos

No offence to any who keeps suggesting it, but if I wanted to use a spear, I would be making a P/R... I'm sticking with a bow, i like it, I enjoy the skills, and it means I have to spend less money on gear seeing as I already have a couple bows, and only one spear that is currently being used.

None taken, I'm not trying to get you to use a spear just to consider the choices. Since you will be taking a bow, I'd strongly recommend at least trying out both your build with disrupting lunge, and then just swap that for savage or distracting shot. The interrupt potential of a bow is far greater than the pet, with even just one skill and that can't be measured in dps. Don't get me wrong, you've a good build going together there I'm just trying to help you squeeze a lil more into it