Dec 23, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: Noble Honor [NH]
Profession: E/
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Is Olias Suicidal?
No no matter what, he is always the only character with 60% DP. He always dies and does it fast. Whether he is using the triple N/Rt build or my own curse build he always goes the way of the dodo.
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Dec 23, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tampere, Finland
Guild: Keep Dreaming [Yawn]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vann Borakul
No no matter what, he is always the only character with 60% DP. He always dies and does it fast. Whether he is using the triple N/Rt build or my own curse build he always goes the way of the dodo.
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Sounds just like my Livia. He's curser too.
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Dec 23, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Textual Harassment [kTHX]
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Sounds just like Dunkoro for me V_V
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Dec 24, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52
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The 5th Celestial Boss
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Inverness, Scotland
Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO]
Profession: E/
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I had heard somewhere (and I don't know how true this is) that monsters like to pick off those players who can cast hexes. *shrugs*... necro heroes do seem to be in the firing line a LOT. Perhaps if you give Olias Survivor Insignia, a vigor and vitae runes, Hale and/or fortitude staff it might help his survivability. Also, perhaps some self heals, like [wiki]Taste of Pain[/wiki], [wiki]Soul Feast[/wiki], or [wiki]Protective was Kaolai[/wiki] for addiional party support.
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Dec 24, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Australia
Guild: [Lawl]
Profession: Mo/
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Lol, it's always my Olias that is the target of the mobs damage, how ironic..
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Dec 24, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Your backline
Profession: W/
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Is olias the one with the least health in your party? If so give him some survivor insignias/vigor rune.
Enemies tend to target the one with the lowest health first.
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Dec 24, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: P/
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Olias is usually fine for me but Master of Whispers is not, everything hates him. For example yesterday Varesh killed him 5 times a row. If anyone dies from the party with a echoing scream.. it's usually him.
Livia with SS draws aggro on HM alot. hmm, actually now that i think about it MoW had SS too during Varesh. The other day Livia was tanking 4, yeah, 4 destroyer of bones more than mhenlo usually... Olias on the other hand with his MM build is the last to die during wipe if he had any minions up that is.
But those are very minimal things, the most suicidal is Lina (that prot. monk) why on earth are you out there, in front of us attacking :P. Nice ....It's like a gigantic banner "Gank Me!".
Last edited by Jaceb; Jan 11, 2008 at 08:47 AM // 08:47..
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Dec 24, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45
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#9
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Uppsala, Sweden
Guild: Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]
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All three necro heroes usually behave like they should. Suicidal heroes when i play are Dunkoro (the worst of the worst imo) and Zhed for some reason.
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Dec 24, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Notts
Profession: W/
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All heroes are suicidal IMO, no matter what build you run on them. What irritates me is that they just stand there being pummelled and don't think to move, ofcoarse if it's a melee hero then that's what you'd expect. But from a squishy like an ele or a necro then it's kinda annoying.
One way around this i've found, if you have non melee heroes, flag them behind you and take aggro first. Then when all the aggro is taken, cancel flag and let heroes come in and do their work. This works for me being as I play warrior alot, so it might not be wise with other proffessions lol.
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Dec 24, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25
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Academy Page
Join Date: Aug 2007
Guild: N/A
Profession: W/E
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I've come to notice that whatever nerco I have playing mm is usually the target of mobs of monsters. Might not be true in all cases, but if I were the AI, I would target an MM just because his death will result in the lose of enemy minions, making the battle that much easier.
Perhaps the AI was programmed smart like this?
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Dec 24, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Australia
Guild: [Lawl]
Profession: Mo/
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Always my hex related hero is the target.
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Dec 25, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Tranquility United [TU]
Profession: Mo/E
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He just wants to go drink a cup of tea with his old buddy Grenth.
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Dec 26, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: The Pond [pond]
Profession: N/Me
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The enemy AI definitely targets those with lower health and/or armor first. If you have only one party member, with DP, they will constantly be targeted due to the fact that they have significantly lower health. So I would say that a) Olias probably has lower HP and/or armor than most of the other members of your party and b) he probably has little or no self-healing to keep him from dying the first time, which then makes him a repeated target.
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Dec 26, 2007, 09:36 AM // 09:36
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tampere, Finland
Guild: Keep Dreaming [Yawn]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xylia
The enemy AI definitely targets those with lower health and/or armor first. If you have only one party member, with DP, they will constantly be targeted due to the fact that they have significantly lower health. So I would say that a) Olias probably has lower HP and/or armor than most of the other members of your party and b) he probably has little or no self-healing to keep him from dying the first time, which then makes him a repeated target.
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For me, it's livia who dies and she has almost highest health. Armor level is same between all.
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Dec 26, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: KoH
Profession: W/N
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If i run the SAB build, Master of Whispers as MM seems to always be the first one to get nailed. Then of course, all his little minions go red ... grrr.
I have watched a swarm of charr run AROUND me and to the back of the group to get to him! (I usually flag him a little further back from the group)
Ive also found the SAB build is not so great trying to Vanquish Sacnoth Valley, or any of the Ebon Guard areas really ... anyone have HH suggestions for those areas?
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Dec 26, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Olias is set as my minion bomber and usually does pretty well DP wise. Although if people do start dieing often, it will be him.
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Dec 26, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: Fighters of the Shiverpeaks
Profession: Me/Mo
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I usually give Zhed [skill]ward against melee[/skill] and another local skill to fend off the baddies. Thought of making him Obs Tank, with his Wammo tendencies.
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Dec 26, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09
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#19
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: england (currently located on the south coast)
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
Is olias the one with the least health in your party? If so give him some survivor insignias/vigor rune.
Enemies tend to target the one with the lowest health first.
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yup and with the lowest armor levels as well!
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Dec 27, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01
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#20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Guild: Lady Ainowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vann Borakul
No no matter what, he is always the only character with 60% DP. He always dies and does it fast. Whether he is using the triple N/Rt build or my own curse build he always goes the way of the dodo.
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try giving him more health usualy mobs have a priority list on who to atack and they also know who is the weakest in the team(notice how almost never the hero warior can mantain agro)so they kinda always go for the squishy targets(and yes necro is a priority for them)
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