Oct 28, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Level Twenty One [HAX]
Profession: N/
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Cultist's Fervor Build without killing myself?
Hey guys!
i've been trying to put together a Cultist's Fervor build ever since EotN came out (masochism, Glyph of Swiftness, etc.) i got the base set up here:
Glyph of Swiftness [skill]Cultist's Fervor[/skill] Masochism
but, when i try to fill up the rest of the bar with lifesteal, it's never enough, and i always kill myself via sacrifice. Also, what does everyone think is the best max health for builds that sac a lot, like this one?
ty.
P.S. when are we going to be able to [skill ] [/skill] GWEN skills? >.<
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Oct 28, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17
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Grotto Attendant
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I tried it on a 55 bar for the norn toury, but there wasn't enough room left for effective offense.
Spamming [skill]Blood of the Aggressor[/skill] is probably going to be your best bet, as it's both a sac and a life steal. [skill]Blood Renewal[/skill] would probably also help.
As for max life, lower is better. The less max you have, the less your sacs cost. I'd probably go with at least 2 sup runes for this sort of build.
The only reason to ever have a high max life on a sac build is to set up for a huge Grenth's Balance.
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Oct 28, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Level Twenty One [HAX]
Profession: N/
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BotA won't work, and neither will Blood renewal. combined with Cultist's Fervor, the sac will be massive on Blood Renewal, and BotA has only conditional lifesteal, so it won't make up for the sac half the time. and, of course, i'm running two sups and radiant insigs. if i wasn't, i'd be dying even more than i'm dying now. i was just wondering if anyone knew exact figures.
I was thinking to bring some straight up lifesteal, like Enfeebling Blood + Oppressive Gaze for groups, Vamp Gaze, Angie's Gaze, Jaundiced Gaze, maybe Blood drinker, and maybe a touch skill to use all that extra energy.
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Oct 28, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Uuuhh... this is probably a really stupid idea but...
Couldn't you, like... let monks heal you, maybe? Dunkoro and Mhenlo are more than happy to oblige...
That way, you don't have to fill your bar up with sub-par skills to try and cover the sac (though, with Blood Magic... you're kinda stuck with taking 'sub-par skills' )
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Oct 28, 2007, 07:43 PM // 19:43
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Level Twenty One [HAX]
Profession: N/
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uh.... this is probably a really stupid response, but... PvE? nope. this is for unorganized PvP, in which you can never guarantee a good monk. (RA)
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Oct 28, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco
uh.... this is probably a really stupid response, but... PvE? nope. this is for unorganized PvP, in which you can never guarantee a good monk. (RA)
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Well, maybe... you should've said so... somewhere in the original post? This IS the Campfire after all...
Anyho, yeah... that is kinda a silly response... I honestly can't see any compelling reason to run Blood Magic in RA/AB. Alas, Blood Magic doesn't really do much, and Cultist's Fervor means you spend less energy and kill yourself faster doing... not much.
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Oct 28, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Level Twenty One [HAX]
Profession: N/
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i'd just like to try something new, and was wondering if anyone knew an effective way of doing it. apparently, it sucks as bad as i thought it did.
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Oct 28, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Reactive Hexing Sucks
Guild: [Thay]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Anyho, yeah... that is kinda a silly response... I honestly can't see any compelling reason to run Blood Magic in RA/AB. Alas, Blood Magic doesn't really do much, and Cultist's Fervor means you spend less energy and kill yourself faster doing... not much.
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I have yet not managed to come up with a build that is as effective as SV in RA for my necro.
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Oct 28, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
I have yet not managed to come up with a build that is as effective as SV in RA for my necro.
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Oh, shit... I wan't being clear again
Yeah, I meant as far as Cultist's is concerned... SV is pretty gnarly.
... though you're still stuck with trying to eke out a blood-focused build ... I end up speccing in curses or somesuch so I can actually do summat
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Oct 28, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Moar life transfer and life siphon. u nede.
Think about it like this. If.....the elite is soooo difficult to make an effective build around....why make it?
Just a thought.
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Oct 28, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Level Twenty One [HAX]
Profession: N/
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i know, i know, crap concept. i want to try something new, perhaps attempt to make it effective, hopefully not to get shot down.
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Oct 28, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Reactive Hexing Sucks
Guild: [Thay]
Profession: N/
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Just think if Cultist's was in Soul Reaping...
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Oct 28, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46
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#13
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Level Twenty One [HAX]
Profession: N/
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N/Mos spamming Heal other and Jamei's gaze for 3 energy (+1 w/ masochism), so much more flexibility. oh ANet? can you heeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaar meeeee?
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Oct 29, 2007, 02:04 AM // 02:04
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#14
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Grotto Attendant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco
uh.... this is probably a really stupid response, but... PvE? nope. this is for unorganized PvP, in which you can never guarantee a good monk. (RA)
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Should have said so earlier. Yeah... there's no hope of making a competitive build out of Cultist's... at least not that I know of.
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Oct 29, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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what if you go with REALLY low health(~200) and bring along life siphon. spam it all over the place, then use BotA for normal damages, and vamp gaze to even out all the saccing. thats my 2 cents.
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Oct 29, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Level Twenty One [HAX]
Profession: N/
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doesn't sound like a bad idea... prot spirit / bond to keep you from getting spiked, perhaps?
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Oct 30, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Inside
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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One problem is that you need an application for your build. What's it for? DPS, farming (if so where?), AB, PvP, etc.
The other problem is that there is nothing in Blood worth running. The direct attacks are weak and slow. VG, DP, BotA, JG, Shadow Strike (no thanks), Unholy Feast...
The touch attacks could work, except that they're 'skills' and won't trigger CF. meh.
Maybe Dark Aura? If so, you're comitted to sac-free lifesteals and/or Healing.
I doubt there are any high DPS necro-based builds at all, given that your elite is taken. The utility is pretty marginal as well, given the same.
Could maybe spam Heal Party.
You might be able to support Prot Bond, if you also bring EB and BS. Now you have 3 slots left for damage and utility. meh. Also, what's the application?
Last edited by Carinae; Oct 30, 2007 at 02:02 AM // 02:02..
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Nov 01, 2007, 10:36 AM // 10:36
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: They May Be Dead [DEAD]
Profession: N/
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I thought of a Blood-Death build using Dark Aura and Cultists fervor you could try//tweak yourself if you wanted.
(Not the best damage dealer in the world by far and purely hypothetical.)
If she works out for you let me know;
N//M
Attributes;
15 Blood Magic (11+1+3)
10 Soul Reaping
10 Death Magic
[skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]Shadow Strike[/skill][skill]Vampiric Swarm[/skill][skill]Unholy feast[/skill][skill]arcane echo[/skill][skill]Cultist's Fervor[/skill][skill]Dark Aura[/skill][skill]Masochism[/skill]
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N//E
Attributes;
16 Blood Magic (12+1+3)
6 Soul Reaping
6 Air Magic
10 Death Magic
[skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]Vampiric Swarm[/skill][skill]Unholy feast[/skill][skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill][skill]Cultist's Fervor[/skill][skill]Dark Aura[/skill][skill]Masochism[/skill]
Last edited by Drakken Breathes Fire; Nov 01, 2007 at 11:12 AM // 11:12..
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Nov 01, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44
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#20
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Guild Hall
Profession: A/
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[skill]Heal Party[/skill]....
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